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Why Are Some Chinese Men So Feminine?

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Dàjiā hǎo, huānyíng láidào Mandarin Corner! Wǒ shì Eileen.
大家好,欢迎来到Mandarin Corner!我是Eileen。
Hi, everyone! Welcome to Mandarin Corner! I am Eileen.

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Jīntiān yòu gěi dàjiā dàilái le yī qī bōkè jiémù,
今天又给大家带来了一期播客节目,
Today we’re bringing you another podcast.

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dànshì ne tā de xíngshì gēn yǐwǎng de huì yǒusuǒbùtóng,
但是呢它的形式跟以往的会有所不同,
But the format will be different from the previous ones

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yīnwèi wǒmen jiāng yǐ shìpín de xíngshì zhǎnxiàn gěi dàjiā.
因为我们将以视频的形式展现给大家。
because we will present it as a video (showing the podcasters).

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Zhèyàngzi dehuà nǐmen bùjǐn kěyǐ tīngdào wǒmen de shēngyīn
这样子的话你们不仅可以听到我们的声音,
This way, not only can you hear our voices,

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hái néng kàndào wǒmen de zuǐ xíng, biǎoqíng jí dòngzuò,
还能看到我们的嘴型、表情及动作,
but will also be able to see our mouth, facial expressions and gestures.

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xīwàng dàjiā xǐhuan zhège xīn de bōkè xíngshì.
希望大家喜欢这个新的播客形式。
Hope you like this new podcast format!

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Lìngwài ne wǒ zhīdao nǐmen dāngzhōng yǒuxiērén
另外呢我知道你们当中有些人
In addition, I know that some of you

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gēn wǒmen fǎnyìng guò hěnduō cì,
跟我们反映过很多次,
have mentioned many times that

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shuō xiǎng duō tīngting běifāng rén de kǒuyīn.
说想多听听北方人的口音。
you would like to hear more northern accents.

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Nà jīntiān wǒ jiù zhuānmén gěi dàjiā qǐng lái le
那今天我就专门给大家请来了
So today, we invited

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yī wèi zhèngzōng de dōngběi gēmenr,
一位正宗的东北哥们儿,
an authentic northeast dude specially for you

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érqiě tā jiāng chéngwéi wǒmen jiémù zhōng de chángkè.
而且他将成为我们节目中的常客。
and he will become our regular guest.

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Xiàmian ne wǒmen jiù xiān qǐng tā lái zuò gè zìwǒjièshào ba.
下面呢我们就先请他来做个自我介绍吧。
Now, let’s have him introduce himself!

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Dàjiā hǎo! Wǒ shì Xiǎofēng.
大家好!我是晓峰。
Hello, everyone! I am Xiaofeng

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Wǒ jiùshì gāngcái Eileen tídào de nàge zhèngzōng de dōngběi gēmenr,
我就是刚才Eileen提到的那个正宗的东北哥们儿,
and I am the authentic northeast dude Eileen just mentioned.

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wǒ láizì Hēilóngjiāng Hāěrbīn.
我来自黑龙江哈尔滨。
I am from Harbin, Heilongjiang province.

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Hāěrbīn shì yī zuò zài Zhōngguó de běifāng chéngshì,
哈尔滨是一座在中国的北方城市,
Harbin is a city in northern China

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nàli dōngtiān de jǐngsè tèbié de hǎo,
那里冬天的景色特别的好,
and the scenery is very nice in wintertime.

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dàjiā rúguǒ yǐhòu láidào Zhōngguó
大家如果以后来到中国
If you ever come to China,

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kěyǐ qù Hāěrbīn zhǎo wǒ wánr.
可以去哈尔滨找我玩儿。
you can come to Harbin and we can hang out together.

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Nà nǐ néng gēn dàjiā jièshào yīxià nǐ xiànzài zài shénme dìfang ma?
那你能跟大家介绍一下你现在在什么地方吗?
Can you tell us where you are right now?

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Wǒ xiànzài zhù zài Zhēnzhèn, lái zhèlǐ yǐjīng yǒu yī nián le.
我现在住在深圳,来这里已经有一年了。
I am currently living in Shenzhen and I have been here already a year.

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Nà zài nánfāng hái xíguàn ma?
那在南方还习惯吗?
Are you used to being in the south?

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Hái kěyǐ, yǐnshí fāngmiàn hái kěyǐ.
还可以,饮食方面还可以。
It’s okay. Regarding food, it’s alright.

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Ránhòu ne jiùshì zhèbiān de tiānqì bǐjiào… huì tūrán xiàyǔ,
然后呢就是这边的天气比较… 会突然下雨,
It’s just that the weather here is very… It will rain suddenly

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ránhòu yǒushíhou huì biànde bǐjiào rè, duì
然后有时候会变得比较热,对
and sometimes gets very hot.

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Nà wǒ gānggang gēn dàjiā shuō le nǐ shì láizì běifāng de,
那我刚刚跟大家说了你是来自北方的,
I told them that you’re from the north.

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nà nǐ néngbùnéng gēn dàjiā shuō yī shuō
那你能不能跟大家说一说
Can you tell us

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zhège běifāng kǒuyīn yǒu shénme tèdiǎn ne?
这个北方口音有什么特点呢?
some of the features of northern accents?

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Běifāng kǒuyīn de yī gè bǐjiào míngxiǎn de tèdiǎn jiùshì érhuà yīn.
北方口音的一个比较明显的特点就是儿化音。
One obvious feature is erhua.

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Jiù xiàng gāngcái nǐ mófǎng nàge dōngběi gēmenr,
就像刚才你模仿那个东北哥们儿,
Just like the northeast term you were imitating “ge menr”.

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dànshì nǐ de dōngběi huà bù shì hěn shúliàn,
但是你的东北话不是很熟练,
But your northern dialect isn’t very fluent

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xūyào zài gēn wǒ xué yī xué. | Xíng
需要再跟我学一学。| 行
and you should learn more with me. | Okay!

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Wǒ hái kěyǐ zài jǔ jǐge lìzi ba,
我还可以再举几个例子吧,
I can give more examples.

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bǐrú shuō xīguā zhī zhèngcháng de dúyīn shì xīguā zhī,
比如说西瓜汁正常的读音是西瓜汁,
For example, the word “watermelon juice” is normally pronounced as “xi gua zhi”.

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zài wǒmen běifāng de dúyīn kěnéng jiùshì xīguā zhīr.
在我们北方的读音可能就是西瓜汁儿。
But in the north, it might be pronounced as “xi gua zhir”.

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Zhèyàngzi, duì
这样子,对
It’s like that.

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Xiǎohái, wǒmen jiù shuō chéng xiǎoháir,
小孩,我们就说成小孩儿
We will say “xiao hai er” instead of “xiao hai”.

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Duì, nǐ kěyǐ shuō yī gè wánzhěng de jùzi,
对,你可以说一个完整的句子,
Right. You can try it with a complete sentence.

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bǐrú shuō: xiǎoháir xǐhuan hē xīguā zhīr.
比如说:小孩儿喜欢喝西瓜汁儿。
For example: kids like to drink watermelon juice.

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Xiǎoháir xǐhuan hē xīguā zhīr.
小孩儿喜欢喝西瓜汁儿。
Kids like to drink watermelon juice.

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Very nice! Tèbié hǎo!
Very nice! 特别好!
Very nice! Great!

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Hǎo ba, nà háiyǒu shénme tèdiǎn ne, chúle zhège érhuà yīn?
好吧,那还有什么特点呢,除了这个儿化音?
Alright. Are there any other features besides erhua?

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Chúle érhuà yīn, hái huì yǒuyīxiē cíyǔ de shǐyòng bùtài yīyàng.
除了儿化音,还会有一些词语的使用不太一样。
Besides erhua, there are also some vocabulary that is different.

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Bǐrú shuō wǒmen de xǐhuan zhège cí,
比如说我们的喜欢这个词,
For example, the word “xi huan” (which means “to like”)

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xǐhuan zhège cí huì shuō chéng xīhan.
喜欢这个词会说成稀罕。
will be “xi han” (in the north).

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Bǐrú shuō, wǒ jǔ gè lìzi, wǒ xīhan nǐ.
比如说,我举个例子,我稀罕你。
Let me give you an example, wo xi han ni (I like you.)

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Duì, zhèyàngzi
对,这样子
That’s how it is.

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Wǒ xǐhuan nǐ de yìsi, duì
我喜欢你的意思,对
It means I like you.

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Wǒ bù xīhan xiǎoháir.
我不稀罕小孩儿。
I don’t “xihan” (like) kids.

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Duì, wǒ bù xīhan xiǎoháir, duì, shì zhèyàngzi
对,我不稀罕小孩儿,对,是这样子
Right! I don’t “xihan” kids. That’s it.

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Háiyǒu yī gè shì yīnggāi… nǐ méiyǒu tīngdào guò de yīnggāi shì zéi,
还有一个是应该… 你没有听到过的应该是贼,
There is another one that you probably haven’t heard of and that is “zei”

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jiùshì xiǎotōu nàge zéi
就是小偷那个贼
which means thief (in Mandarin).

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Zhège cí wǒmen yònglái xíngróng fēicháng de yìsi,
这个词我们用来形容非常的意思,
This word is used to mean “very” (in the north).

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bǐrú shuō jīntiān de bōkè zéi hǎokàn,
比如说今天的播客贼好看,
For example: “Today’s podcast is “zei” good.”

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jiùshì jīntiān de bōkè fēicháng hǎokàn de yìsi.
就是今天的播客非常好看的意思。
It means “today’s podcast is very good.”

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Zhè bēi xīguā zhīr zéi hǎohē!
这杯西瓜汁儿贼好喝!
This glass of watermelon juice tastes “zei” good!

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Duì, xué de hěn kuài.
对,学得很快。
Right. You learn fast!

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Hái kěyǐ a?
还可以啊?
I am not bad, right?

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Wǒ háishi yǒudiǎn xué běifāng huà de qiánlì, shì ba?
我还是有点学北方话的潜力,是吧?
I actually have the potential to learn northern dialect, right?

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Shì, yǒuqiánlì
是,有潜力
Yes, you have the potential.

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Nà xiàmian ne wǒmen jiù jìnrù jīntiān de bōkè zhǔtí ba!
那下面呢我们就进入今天的播客主题吧!
Now, let’s begin our podcast!

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Tā gēn yī gè shèhuìxiànxiàng yǒuguān.
它跟一个社会现象有关。
The topic is about a social phenomenon.

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Wǒ xiān wèn yīxià Xiǎofēng, nǐ píngshí huì kàn zhēnrénxiù jiémù ma?
我先问一下晓峰,你平时会看真人秀节目吗?
First, let me ask Xiaofeng, do you usually watch reality shows?

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Xiàng pǎo nán a, chuàngzào yíng zhīlèi de.
像跑男啊、创造营之类的。
For example, Running Man, Creative Camp, etc.

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Píngshí huì kàn de, yīnwèi jiàqī de shíhou
平时会看的,因为假期的时候
Yes, I do because during holidays

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gēn dàjiā jù zàiyīqǐ yào yǒu liáo de huàtí,
跟大家聚在一起要有聊的话题,
when I get together with friends, we need to have things to talk about

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xiàng pǎo nán a huòzhě shì yīxiē xuǎnxiùjiémù
像跑男啊或者是一些选秀节目
and Running Man or some talent shows

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jiùshì bǐjiào bùcuò de huàtí, dàjiā dōu néng liáo qǐlai.
就是比较不错的话题,大家都能聊起来。
are good topics for us to start conversations.

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Nà nǐ yǒuméiyǒu fāxiàn zài zhèxiē jiémù lǐ de nán jiābīn,
那你有没有发现在这些节目里的男嘉宾,
So, have you noticed that some male guests in these shows

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xiànzài shì dǎban de yuèláiyuè piàoliang le,
现在是打扮得越来越漂亮了,
are becoming more and more beautiful

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érqiě chuānzhuó yě hěn nǚxìnghuà le ne?
而且穿着也很女性化了呢?
and that their dressing style is becoming more feminine?

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Shìde, zài yīxiē jiémù dāngzhōng a,
是的,在一些节目当中啊,
Yes. This happens in both shows

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jiùshì yǐngshì dāngzhōng a dōu yǒu zhèyàng de xiànxiàng,
就是影视当中啊都有这样的现象,
and movies

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yīnwèi qíshí yǒu yī dà bùfen guānzhòng
因为其实有一大部分观众
because actually, a big part of the audience

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qíshí hěn xǐhuan zhèzhǒng xíngxiàng de nánháizi,
其实很喜欢这种形象的男孩子,
like this kind of guys,

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tèbiéshì nǚxìng guānzhòng.
特别是女性观众。
especially the female audience.

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Nà jīntiān wǒmen yào lái tàntǎo de huàtí jiùshì
那今天我们要来探讨的话题就是
So, today we will discuss

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Zhōngguó de nánxìng wèishénme yuèláiyuè nǚxìnghuà le?
中国的男性为什么越来越女性化了?
Why (some) Chinese men are becoming more and more feminine?

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Shìde, zhège huàtí zài wǎngluò shàng dàjiā tǎolùn de yě hěn jīliè,
是的,这个话题在网络上大家讨论得也很激烈,
This topic is being discussed intensely on the internet

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yīnwèi nánxìng nǚxìnghuà tā bìjìng shì yī gè bǐjiào xīnxiān de xiànxiàng,
因为男性女性化它毕竟是一个比较新鲜的现象,
because after all, it is a fairly recent phenomenon.

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Yǒu hěnduō rén jiēshòu bùliǎo, yǒu hěnduō rén néng jiēshòu.
有很多人接受不了,有很多人能接受。
Many people cannot accept this while others can.

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Nà wǒ xīwàng tōngguò jīntiān wǒ gēn Xiǎofēng de zhège tǎolùn ne,
那我希望通过今天我跟晓峰的这个讨论呢,
I hope that through today’s talk with Xiaofeng,

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dàjiā bùjǐn kěyǐ xué dào gēn zhège huàtí xiāngguān de
大家不仅可以学到跟这个话题相关的
not only can you learn

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yīxiē biǎodá fāngshì háiyǒu wǎngluò liúxíng cí,
一些表达方式还有网络流行词,
expressions and internet phrases related to this topic,

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shùnbiàn hái nénggòu liǎojiě yīxià
顺便还能够了解一下
but also get to understand

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Zhōngguó dāngxià niánqīngrén duì zhège huàtí de kànfǎ,
中国当下年轻人对这个话题的看法,
how young Chinese view this

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jíqí zhège xiànxiàng bèihòu de wénhuà hé yuányīn.
及其这个现象背后的文化和原因。
as well as the culture and reasons behind this phenomenon.

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Nà xiàmian shǒuxiān qǐng Xiǎofēng lái jièshào yīxià
那下面首先请晓峰来介绍一下
Now, let’s have Xiaofeng introduce

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nánxìng nǚxìnghuà zhège xiànxiàng ba!
男性女性化这个现象吧!
the phenomenon of men becoming more feminine!

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Xíng, wǒ kěyǐ dàgài de gěi dàjiā xiān jièshào yīxià.
行,我可以大概地给大家先介绍一下。
Okay. I can roughly introduce it.

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Shǒuxiān ne jiùshì nánxìng nǚxìnghuà tǐxiàn zài liǎng gè fāngmiàn,
首先呢就是男性女性化体现在两个方面,
(The phenomenon of) men becoming feminine reflects in two ways.

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liǎng zhǒng lèixíng ba, yīnggāi zhèngquè láishuō shì liǎng zhǒng lèixíng.
两种类型吧,应该正确来说是两种类型。
To put it more accurately, there are two types.

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Nà dìyī zhǒng lèixíng wǒmen cháng chēngzhīwéi nǚzhuāng dàlǎo,
那第一种类型我们常称之为女装大佬,
The first type is what we call “cross-dresser”.

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jiùshì zhèzhǒng nánshēng ne huì zhíjiē dǎban chéng nǚháizi de yàngzi,
就是这种男生呢会直接打扮成女孩子的样子,
This type of men simply dress like girls

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tāmen huì jiùshì chuān qúnzi, chuān gāogēnxié, chuān sīwà.
他们会就是穿裙子、穿高跟鞋、穿丝袜,
and they wear skirts, high-heels and stockings.

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Ránhòu zài jiàqī de shíhou dǎban chéng nǚháizi de yàngzi shàngjiē,
然后在假期的时候打扮成女孩子的样子上街,
They will dress like a girl and walk on the streets during holidays.

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nà kěxiǎngérzhī ne zhè jiù huì yǐnqǐ yīxiē máfan,
那可想而知呢这就会引起一些麻烦,
As you can imagine, this might create problems.

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bǐrú shuō qítā de nánháizi kěnéng huì kàndào zhège nǚháizi zhēn piàoliang,
比如说其他的男孩子可能会看到这个女孩子真漂亮,
For example, other guys might see that they’re so pretty

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ránhòu jiù gēn tā dāshàn, shì ba?
然后就跟他搭讪,是吧?
and start talking to them, right?

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Dànshì jiéguǒ yī fāxiàn shì gè nánháizi, ránhòu jiù hěn chījīng,
但是结果一发现是个男孩子,然后就很吃惊,
But they will find out that these “girls” are actually guys and will be shocked.

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duì, jiù hěn gāngà, duì!
对,就很尴尬,对!
It will be very awkward!

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Nà nǐ néng shíbié chūlái zhèzhǒng nǚzhuāng dàlǎo ma
那你能识别出来这种女装大佬吗
Will you be able to recognize them

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rúguǒ zǒuzài jiēshang dehuà?
如果走在街上的话?
If you walk on the street?

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Wǒ juéde wǒ shíbié bù chūlái, tāmen dōu hěn zhuānyè.
我觉得我识别不出来,他们都很专业。
I don’t think I can because they’re very professional.

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Érqiě wǒ fāxiàn nǐ gānggang suǒshuō de nǚzhuāng dàlǎo zài wǎngluò shàng,
而且我发现你刚刚所说的女装大佬在网络上,
Also, I noticed that you can find many cross-dressers on the internet,

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bǐrú shuō B zhàn shàng yě tǐng duō de,
比如说B站上也挺多的,
for example, on Bilibili

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háiyǒu dǒuyīn zhèzhǒng píngtái shàngmiàn.
还有抖音这种平台上面。
and Douyin (TikTok).

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Duì, hěnduō de zhǔbō háiyǒu up zhǔ
对,很多的主播还有up主
Right. Many (live streaming) hosts and video creators (similar to YouTubers)

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tāmen huì dǎban chéng nǚháizi de yàngzi,
他们会打扮成女孩子的样子,
will dress like girls

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yīnwèi niánqīngrén hěn xǐhuan.
因为年轻人很喜欢。
because young people like it.

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Wǒ fāxiàn nǐ gānggang shuō le yī gè cí,
我发现你刚刚说了一个词,
I noticed that you just mentioned a word

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wǒ hěn cháng yī duàn shíjiān dōu bù lǐjiě shì shénme yìsi,
我很长一段时间都不理解是什么意思,
that for a long time, I didn’t understand.

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dànshì hòumian wǒ yě cāi chūlái le, jiùshì up zhǔ.
但是后面我也猜出来了,就是up主。
However, I guessed it later. That word is “up zhu”.

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Up zhǔ shíjìshàng jiùshì zài Zhōngguó yǒu gè jiào bìlǐbìlǐ de wǎngzhàn,
up主实际上就是在中国有个叫哔哩哔哩的网站,
Actually in China, there is a website called Bilibili

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tā gēn YouTube ne jiùshì hěn xiàng,
它跟YouTube呢就是很像,
and it’s similar to YouTube.

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ránhòu bìlǐbìlǐ shàngmiàn de zhèxiē zhǔbō
然后哔哩哔哩上面的这些主播
So, video hosts (video creators) on Bilibili

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huòzhě shì zuò shìpín de zhèxiē zuòzhě jiù huì jiàozuò up zhǔ.
或者是做视频的这些作者就会叫做up主。
or people that upload videos are called “up zhu”.

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Nà wǒ yě suànshì up zhǔ lo?
那我也算是up主咯?
So, I am also an “up zhu”, right?

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Duì, zámen dōu shǔyú shì up zhǔ, dōu shì yī gè yìsi, duì.
对,咱们都属于是up主,都是一个意思,对。
Right. We are “up zhu”. That’s the same meaning as (Youtubers).

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Nà háiyǒu yīzhǒng lèixíng ne?
那还有一种类型呢?
What is the other type (of feminine guy)?

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Lìngyīzhǒng lèixíng ne
另一种类型呢
The other type is

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shíjìshàng jiùshì zài shēnghuó zhōng gèng chángjiàn yīxiē,
实际上就是在生活中更常见一些,
actually more commonly seen in everyday life.

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zhèxiē nánshēng ne gēn chuántǒng nánshēng bǐ qǐlai,
这些男生呢跟传统男生比起来,
Compared with traditional men,

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shíjìshàng chābié jiùshì tāmen kěnéng huì gèng zhùyì dǎban,
实际上差别就是他们可能会更注意打扮,
the difference is that they might pay more attention to how they dress,

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gèng zhùyì zìjǐ de xíngxiàng hé wàimào,
更注意自己的形象和外貌,
and their appearance.

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kěnéng huì shǐyòng yīxiē miànmó a hùfūpǐn zhīlèi de,
可能会使用一些面膜啊护肤品之类的,
They might use facial masks, skin-care products and so on.

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duì, zuò yīxiē bǎoyǎng.
对,做一些保养。
They will try to maintain (their looks).

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Nǐ shuō de zhège yīnggāi zài yúlèquān cúnzài de gèngduō ba?
你说的这个应该在娱乐圈存在的更多吧?
What you’re talking about exists more in the entertainment industry, right?

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Duì, tāmen yībān dōu shì xiǎoxiānròu,
对,他们一般都是小鲜肉,
Right. They’re “little fresh meats”

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tāmen huì gěi zìjǐ dǎban de hěn niánqīng hěn kěài zhèyàngzi.
他们会给自己打扮得很年轻很可爱这样子。
who will make themselves look young and cute.

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Jiù xiàng wǒ gānggang gēn nǐ shuō dào de
就像我刚刚跟你说到的
Just like what I told you,

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zhège zhēnrénxiù jiémù shàng de yīxiē nán jiābīn,
这个真人秀节目上的一些男嘉宾,
some of the male guests on the reality shows

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wǒ juéde tāmen jiù shǔyú xiǎoxiānròu lèixíng de míngxīng, duì ba?
我觉得他们就属于小鲜肉类型的明星,对吧?
I feel belong to the little fresh meat type, right?

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Shìde, shì zhèyàng de.
是的,是这样的。
Yes, they do.

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Nà shùnbiàn zài qǐng nǐ jiěshì yīxià zhège xiǎoxiānròu shì shénme yìsi ba!
那顺便再请你解释一下这个小鲜肉是什么意思吧!
Can you explain the meaning of the word “little fresh meat”?

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Xiǎoxiānròu jiùshì zhǐ de jiùshì dāngdài de yīxiē xīn de nán míngxīng,
小鲜肉就是指的就是当代的一些新的男明星,
Little fresh meat refers to current male celebrities

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tāmen bǎ zìjǐ dǎban de hěn kěài, hěn niánqīng, jiù báibái jìngjìng de,
他们把自己打扮得很可爱,很年轻,就白白净净的,
who dress themselves to look cute, young, and with fair, clear skin.

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ránhòu yě shòudào yīxiē jiùshì nǚ guānzhòng de xǐhuan,
然后也受到一些就是女观众的喜欢,
They’re popular among female audience.

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nà wǒmen jiù yībān dōu chēngzhīwéi xiǎoxiānròu, duì
那我们就一般都称之为小鲜肉,对
These guys are usually called little fresh meat.

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Nà nǐ juéde zài Zhōngguó dàjiā duì zhège nánxìng nǚxìnghuà xiànxiàng
那你觉得在中国大家对这个男性女性化现象
So regarding this phenomenon,

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dōu chí shénmeyàng de tàidu ne?
都持什么样的态度呢?
what are Chinese’s attitudes?

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Zhège tàidu qíshí jiù yǒu hěnduō le.
这个态度其实就有很多了。
There are actually many kinds.

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Wǒ zhèjǐtiān jiù yǒu qù cházhǎo yīxiē zīliào,
我这几天就有去查找一些资料,
Recently, I have done some research

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ránhòu guānzhù zhège rèdiǎn ma,
然后关注这个热点嘛,
and followed this hot topic.

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Ránhòu wǒmen xiān lái kàn yīxià.
然后我们先来看一下。
Let’s have a look (at some comments on the internet)!

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Xiān lái kàn zhèwèi wǎngyǒu de pínglùn,
先来看这位网友的评论,
Let’s first take a look at this netizen’s comment.

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zhè shì yī gè nánshēng de pínglùn. Tā zhèyàng shuō de:
这是一个男生的评论。他这样说的:
This is from a guy. He said:

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“Xiànzài chūdào de nánhái zǎ dōu méiyǒu yánggāng zhī qì?
“现在出道的男孩咋都没有阳刚之气?
“Why are guys that enter showbiz not very masculine-looking?

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yī gè bǐ yī gè niáng!
一个比一个娘!
They’re getting more and more feminine!

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háiyǒu fěnsī, zhēnshi lǐjiě bùliǎo!”
还有粉丝,真是理解不了!”
Also the fans, I really don’t get them!”

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Zhège wǎngyǒu de xīnshēng
这个网友的心声
This netizen’s opinion

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jiù duì zhèzhǒng xiǎoxiānròu jiù bǐjiào páichì ma, duì
就对这种小鲜肉就比较排斥嘛,对
is against little fresh meat type of guys.

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Tā kěnéng juéde tā zuòwéi yī gè nánháizi, nǐ dǎban de tài jīngzhì,
他可能觉得他作为一个男孩子,你打扮得太精致,
He probably feels that if a guy dress too sophisticated

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ránhòu xiàng nǚháizi yīyàng jiùshì jiāoqì,
然后像女孩子一样就是娇气,
and is so delicate like a girl,

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hěn yǒusǔn nánrén de nàzhǒng zūnyán, wǒ juéde
很有损男人的那种尊严,我觉得
it damages men’s dignity.

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Duì | Tā kěnéng shì zhèyàng juéde, duì
对 | 他可能是这样觉得,对
Right. | That’s probably how he felt.

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Huì qiányìshí dāngzhōng háishi huì yǒu nánrén shì nàzhǒng
会潜意识当中还是会有男人是那种
In his mind, men should be

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bǐjiào gāodà de nàzhǒng yìnxiàng ba.
比较高大的那种印象吧。
tall and big.

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Nánrén děi yǒu yī gè nánrén de yàngzi,
男人得有一个男人的样子,
Men should look like a man

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jiù bùyào qù dòng nǚháizi de dōngxi,
就不要去动女孩子的东西,
and shouldn’t use girls’ stuff.

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Huàzhuāngpǐn, shénme miànmó zhīlèi de
化妆品,什么面膜之类的
Stuff like makeup and facial masks

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yīnggāi dōu shì nǚháizi shǐyòng de chǎnpǐn.
应该都是女孩子使用的产品。
should be used (only) by girls.

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Duì, bùyào nàme jiāoqì, duì
对,不要那么娇气,对
Right, don’t be too delicate.

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Ránhòu wǒmen kàn yī xià xià yī tiáo,
然后我们看一下下一条,
Let’s look at the next comment.

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zhè yīnggāi shì gè nǚshēng shuō de, tā shuō:
这应该是个女生说的,她说:
This is probably from a girl. She said:

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“Wǒ zhège rén zéǒu shěnměi bǐjiào chuántǒng,
“我这个人择偶审美比较传统,
“My standards for a partner is rather traditional.

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wǒ xǐhuan yángguāng bǐjiào yánggāng de lèixíng,
我喜欢阳光比较阳刚的类型,
I like the type that is cheerful and manly.

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fǎnzhèng wǒ shì bùhuì xuǎnzé nàzhǒng piàoliang báinèn de nánháizi.”
反正我是不会选择那种漂亮白嫩的男孩子。”
In any case, I would never choose guys that are beautiful and delicate.”

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Wǒ juéde yǒu yībùfen nǚshēng yīnggāi shì bùhuì xǐhuan zhè yīlèi de,
我觉得有一部分女生应该是不会喜欢这一类的,
I think that probably some girls don’t like this type

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jiùshì kěnéng gēn wǒmen chuántǒng de zhège duì nánxìng de yìnxiàng
就是可能跟我们传统的这个对男性的印象
because they’re different from

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háishi yǒudiǎn chāyì, duì
还是有点差异,对
our traditional view of a guy.

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Wǒ juéde yǒu yībùfen nǚshēng háishi xǐhuan nàzhǒng gāogāo dàdà,
我觉得有一部分女生还是喜欢那种高高大大,
I think that some girls still like guys that are tall, big

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ránhòu hěn man de nàzhǒng, shì ba?
然后很man的那种,是吧?
and manly, right?

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Shìde, jiùshì yīnwèi yǐwǎng de nǚshēng
是的,就是因为以往的女生
Right. Women in the past

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qíshí dōu xīwàng zhǎodào de lìngyībàn,
其实都希望找到的另一半,
actually wanted their partners

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zhǎodào zhège nánháizi shì kěyǐ yīkào de.
找到这个男孩子是可以依靠的。
to be a guy that they could depend on.

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Nà xiànzài de zhèxiē xiǎoxiānròu men huòzhě shì nǚzhuāng dàlǎo men,
那现在的这些小鲜肉们或者是女装大佬们,
But the little fresh meats or cross-dressers,

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tāmen běnshēn dōu bǎ zìjǐ dǎban de xiàng nǚháizi,
他们本身都把自己打扮得像女孩子,
dress themselves like girls,

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nà wǒ qù yīkào shéi a?
那我去依靠谁啊?
how can women depend on them?

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Zhè nǚháizi qíshí jiù huì zhèyàng de xiǎngfǎ, duì ba?
这女孩子其实就会这样的想法,对吧?
Girls might think this way, right?

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Jiù yǒudiǎn xiàng wǒmen yǐqián fēicháng… shènzhì shì xiànzài
就有点像我们以前非常… 甚至是现在
In the past, even now,

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dōu hěn liúxíng de yīzhǒng xiǎoshuō tícái, bàdào zǒngcái ma, shì ba?
都很流行的一种小说题材,霸道总裁嘛,是吧?
there is a genre in novels called “bossy CEO” and it’s very popular, you know?
Note: “霸道总裁 / bossy CEO” is a popular internet novel genre and the term refers to a male CEO who is tall, handsome, rich and usually falls in love with a girls that is poor, average and often bullied. He treats most people badly and is only nice to this girl. He will even pretend not to care about the girl, but in fact, he loves her very deeply.

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Zhè bù jiùshì wǒmen… jiù mǎnzú le hěnduō shàonǚ
这不就是我们… 就满足了很多少女
This type of (novels) satisfies all the fantasies many young girls

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duì nányǒu de suǒyǒu huànxiǎng,
对男友的所有幻想,
have of a potential boyfriend.

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duō jīn, yòu gāo yòu shuài, érqiě jiùshì hěn bàqì, nǐ zhīdao ba?
多金,又高又帅,而且就是很霸气,你知道吧?
They’re rich, tall, handsome and bossy, you know?

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Duì, huì yǒu nàzhǒng chóngbài de gǎnjué, duì ba? | Méicuò!
对,会有那种崇拜的感觉,对吧?| 没错!
Right. (Girls) will admire them, right? | That’s right!

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Ránhòu wǒmen zài lái kàn xià yī tiáo,
然后我们再来看下一条,
Now, let’s look at the next comment

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xià yī tiáo zhège shì yī gè jiāzhǎng de zài wēibó shàng de pínglùn.
下一条这个是一个家长的在微博上的评论。
which is from a parent on Weibo.

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Tā shuō: “wàibiǎo bùnánbùnǚ,
她说:“外表不男不女,
She said: “It’s actually secondary that the feminine look

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gěi háizi zàochéng bùliáng de shěnměi háishi qícì,
给孩子造成不良的审美还是其次,
brings bad influence on kids’ beauty standards.

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zuìzhǔyào de shì pà háizi jiēchù duō le,
最主要的是怕孩子接触多了,
What’s more worrying is that if kids get too much exposure to this,

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xīnlǐ shàng wánquán bù xiàng yī gè nánzǐhàn.”
心理上完全不像一个男子汉。”
they will not be like a real man psychologically.”

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Qíshí zuòwéi jiāzhǎng, tā qíshí huì hěn dānxīn zìjǐ de háizi,
其实作为家长,她其实会很担心自己的孩子,
Actually, parents get worried about their kids,

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tèbiéshì nánháizi shòudào zhèzhǒng cháoliú de yǐngxiǎng,
特别是男孩子受到这种潮流的影响,
especially boys, being influenced by this trend

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yǐhòu yě biànde, jiùshì xiàng zhège jiāzhǎng shuō de
以后也变得,就是像这个家长说的
and later becoming, as this parent puts it,

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jiù kěnéng bùnánbùnǚ le, duì
就可能不男不女了,对
not like a man nor a woman.

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Wǒ yǐqián shì zài yī gè Yīngyǔ péixùn jīgòu dāng lǎoshī de,
我以前是在一个英语培训机构当老师的,
I used to work as a teacher in an English training center

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ránhòu wǒ dǐxia yǒuyīxiē xuésheng,
然后我底下有一些学生,
and I had students

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tā jiùshì nàzhǒng sān sì niánjí de xuésheng.
他就是那种三四年级的学生。
that were in the third or fourth grade.

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Ránhòu qízhōng yǒu yī gè… yǒu gè xiǎoháir,
然后其中有一个… 有个小孩儿,
There was one kid that

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tā jiùshì dàgài dú sì niánjí ba,
他就是大概读四年级吧,
was probably in the fourth grade.

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wǒmen bānshàng de wàijiào lǎoshī shì yī gè nǚhái,
我们班上的外教老师是一个女孩,
The foreign teacher in our class was a woman,

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dàn qítā bānshàng de wàijiào dōu shì nánde.
但其他班上的外教都是男的。
but all the teachers in other classes were male.

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Nàge māma ne, tā jiù zhuānmén pǎo guòlái gēn wǒ shuō,
那个妈妈呢,她就专门跑过来跟我说,
So the mother came to me and said:

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nàge Eileen lǎoshī a,
那个Eileen老师啊,
“Eileen,

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nǐ néngbùnéng jiùshì bǎ wǒmen bān de wàijiào lǎoshī huànchéng nánde a?
你能不能就是把我们班的外教老师换成男的啊?
can you change our foreign teacher to a male teacher?

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Wǒ shuō wèishénme a?
我说为什么啊?
I asked her why.

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Tā shuō yīnwèi xuéxiào lǐmiàn de lǎoshī dōu shì nǚhái,
她说因为学校里面的老师都是女孩,
She said that because all the teachers in her son’s school were women,

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ránhòu wǒ jiā érzi de bàba ne yòu jīngcháng bù zài jiā,
然后我家儿子的爸爸呢又经常不在家,
his father wasn’t home often

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shēnbiān dài tā de rén dōu shì nǚxìng,
身边带他的人都是女性,
and people around him were all females,

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suǒyǐ tā yǒudiǎn dānxīn tā de érzi
所以她有点担心她的儿子
so she was concerned that her son

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huì biànde jiù yǒudiǎn xiàng xiǎo nǚhái yīyàng de.
会变得就有点像小女孩一样的。
would become like a girl.

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Dàn tā érzi ba, jiù zhēn de yǒu yīdiǎndiǎn xiàng nǚhái
但她儿子吧,就真的有一点点像女孩
But her son was already a little like a girl,

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jiù nàzhǒng dòngzuò, nǐ zhīdao ba?
就那种动作,你知道吧?
for example, in his manners, you know?

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Háiyǒu yī gè shìjiàn, wǒ bùzhīdào nǐ yǒuméiyǒu tīngshuō guò,
还有一个事件,我不知道你有没有听说过,
There was an event that I don’t know if you have heard of.

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jiùshì kāixué dìyī jì (kè) zhège jiémù nǐ zhīdao ma?
就是开学第一季(课)这个节目你知道吗?
Do you know about the show – First Class of The New Semester?

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Yǒudiǎn yìnxiàng, dànshì nǐ kěyǐ gēn wǒ shuō yīxià.
有点印象,但是你可以跟我说一下。
I have a vague recollection. But you can tell me more about it.

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Tā zhège jiémù zhǔyào de shòuzhòng jiùshì zhōng xiǎo xuésheng,
它这个节目主要的受众就是中小学生,
The show’s main audience is middle school or primary students.

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ér zhège jiémù qǐng lái le yī gè hǎoxiàng jiùshì xiǎoxiānròu zǔhé ba
而这个节目请来了一个好像就是小鲜肉组合吧
(Once), the show invited a little fresh meat group

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jiào xīn F4 ba, fǎnzhèng dōu shì zhǎngde nàzhǒng hěn niánqīng de,
叫新F4吧,反正都是长得那种很年轻的,
called New F4. They are the kind that looks very young,

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jiùshì kànqǐlai xiàng shíqī bā suì de nàzhǒng xiǎo nánhái. | Míngbai
就是看起来像十七八岁的那种小男孩。| 明白
about 17 or 18 years old. | I see.

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Yīnwèi zhège shìqing
因为这个事情
Because of this (the show inviting this group),

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hěnduō jiāzhǎng dōu dǎdiànhuà qù tóusù,
很多家长都打电话去投诉,
many parents called to complain

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bìngqiě zài wǎngluò shàng yǐnqǐ le hěndà de zhēngyì.
并且在网络上引起了很大的争议。
and this caused a big controversy on the internet.

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Shuō nǐ zhège jiémù běnshēn jiùshì gěi qīngshàonián kàn de,
说你这个节目本身就是给青少年看的,
They said: “This show is for teenagers,

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dànshì nǐ bǎ zhèxiē nán bù nán nǚ bù nǚ de,
但是你把这些男不男女不女的,
why did you invite celebrities that looked neither male nor female

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niáng lǐ niáng qì de míngxīng qǐng shàngtái lái shì yào gànshénme?
娘里娘气的明星请上台来是要干什么?
and (instead, looked like) sissies on the stage?

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Nǐ zhèyàngzi duì wǒ de háizi huì yǐngxiǎng hěndà,
你这样子对我的孩子会影响很大,
It will have a big influence on our kids

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huì ràng tāmen gǎo bùqīngchu
会让他们搞不清楚
and make them confused

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zhège zuòwéi yī gè nánháizi yīnggāi shì shénmeyàng de.
这个作为一个男孩子应该是什么样的。
as to how a boy should be.”

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Suǒyǐ hěnduō jiāzhǎng yǒu zhè fāngmiàn de dānxīn, duì | Duì…
所以很多家长有这方面的担心,对 | 对…
So, many parents had this concern. | Right.

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Ránhòu wǒmen kàn xià yī tiáo,
然后我们看下一条,
Let’s see the next comment.

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xiàmian zhè yī tiáo kěnéng shì duì yǐngshì jù de
下面这一条可能是对影视剧的
The next one is probably from someone that

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jiùshì zhìliàng yāoqiú bǐjiào gāo de yī gè guānzhòng de liúyán,
就是质量要求比较高的一个观众的留言。
had a higher expectation on the quality of TV shows and movies.

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Tā pínglùn de shì yī gè xiǎoxiānròu míngxīng, tā shì zhèyàng shuō de:
他评论的是一个小鲜肉明星,他是这样说的:
He was commenting on a little fresh meat celebrity. He said:

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“Tā de nǎocánfěn guǎn zhè jiào shuài?
“他的脑残粉管这叫帅?
“Those retarded fans call this handsome?!

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Ěxīn de wǒ bùxíng, bùdébù lái tùcáo,
恶心得我不行,不得不来吐槽,
He makes me so sick that I have to complain about it!

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yàobùrán huì biēsǐ wǒ,
要不然会憋死我,
Otherwise, I will die from holding it in.

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biéde bù shuō, zhè zhè zhè… shéi néng kàn chūlái shì nánde!”
别的不说,这这这… 谁能看出来是男的!”
Not to mention other things, this… Who can tell that he’s a guy?!”

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Shuō de shéi ya?
说的谁呀?
Who was he talking about?

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Shuō de shì Lù Hán,
说的是鹿晗,
He was talking about Luhan

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duì, tā yě shì yī gè xiǎoxiānròu de míngxīng.
对,他也是一个小鲜肉的明星。
who is also a little fresh meat star.

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O, Lù Hán ya! Shuō zhēn de wǒ yě juéde tā tǐng xiàng nǚhái de,
哦,鹿晗呀!说真的我也觉得他挺像女孩的,
Ah, Luhan! To be honest, I also feel that he looks like a girl.

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jiùshì wǒ gāng gēn nǐ jiǎng de nàge jiémù Chuàngzàoyíng,
就是我刚跟你讲的那个节目创造营,
I just told you about the show, Creative Camp,

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tā bù shì zài lǐmiàn dāng píngwěi ma? | Duì
他不是在里面当评委吗?| 对
and he is in it as a judge, you know? | Right.

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Tā zài lǐmiàn de nàge chuānzhuó zhēn de hǎo xiàng nǚhái!
他在里面的那个穿着真的好像女孩!
What he wore on that show really made him look like a girl!

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Tā shì xiǎoxiānròu zhōng de xiǎoxiānròu,
他是小鲜肉中的小鲜肉,
He’s more like a little fresh meat

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bǐ qítā xiǎoxiānròu hái yào xiǎoxiānròu, duì ba?
比其他小鲜肉还要小鲜肉,对吧?
than any other ones, you know?

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Wǒ hěn hàoqí tā duōdà le ya, tā gāi bùhuì shì shíqī bā suì ba?
我很好奇他多大了呀,他该不会是十七八岁吧?
I am curious, how old is he? He is not 17 or 18 years old, right?

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Yīnggāi bǐ nà yào dà ba, tā shíjìshàng jiùshì bǎoyǎng de bǐjiào hǎo,
应该比那要大吧,他实际上就是保养得比较好,
He’s probably older than that. He just takes good care of himself.
Note: He is 30 years old.

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kěnéng bǐ yīxiē nǚshēng bǎoyǎng de dōu yào hǎo.
可能比一些女生保养得都要好。
Possibly, he does it better than some girls.

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Tā shìbùshì cóng Hánguó nàbian guòlái de?
他是不是从韩国那边过来的?
Didn’t he come back from South Korea?

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Duì, tā shì cóng Hánguó nàbian huílai de,
对,他是从韩国那边回来的,
Yes, he came back from South Korea

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tā zhīqián zài yī gè zǔhé zhīzhōng, duì
他之前在一个组合之中,对
and he used to be in a (K-pop) group.

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Zhīdao le, nǐ jìxù.
知道了,你继续。
I see. Go on.

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Ránhòu qíshí zhè tiáo pínglùn wǒ yě yǒu gòngmíng, yīnwèi shénme ne?
然后其实这条评论我也有共鸣,因为什么呢?
This comment actually resonates with me. You know why?

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Yīnwèi wǒ píngshí yě shì bǐjiào xǐhuan kàn yǐng shì jù a,
因为我平时也是比较喜欢看影视剧啊,
Because usually, I also like to watch TV shows and movies.

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jiùshìshuō xiànzài wǒmen de zhège míngxīng yīnwèi tài àiměi le,
就是说现在我们的这个明星因为太爱美了,
Nowadays, the celebrities try to maintain their appearance

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tài zhùzhòng zìjǐ de xíngxiàng le,
太注重自己的形象了,
and emphasize their looks so much

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kěnéng jiù bǎ yǎnjì gěi diūdiào le, duì
可能就把演技给丢掉了,对
that they might have lost their acting skills.

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Zhè duì wǒmen de jiùshì yīxiē duì yǐngshì jù de zhìliàng
这对我们的就是一些对影视剧的质量
To audiences that have a higher expectation of

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yǒu yāoqiú de guānzhòng láishuō,
有要求的观众来说,
the quality of shows or movies,

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kěnéng jiùshì yīzhǒng mónàn le.
可能就是一种磨难了。
this might be torture (to watch).

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Wǒ xiǎngqǐ le jiùshì guónèi de yī gè zhùmíng de biānjù ma,
我想起了就是国内的一个著名的编剧嘛,
This reminds me of a famous Chinese screenwriter,

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Wāng hǎilín, jiùshì Wāng hǎilín
汪海林,就是汪海林
Wang Hailin.

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Tā yě shì kào zhe jiùshìshuō pēngjī zhèxiē xiǎoxiānròu cái chū de míng.
他也是靠着就是说抨击这些小鲜肉才出的名。
He became famous by attacking these little fresh meats.

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Ránhòu tā běnshēn yīnwèi tā shì gè biānjù,
然后他本身因为他是个编剧,
Because he is a screenwriter,

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tā jiù huì duì yǐngshì jù zhèxiē tícái de
他就会对影视剧这些题材的
he’s very sensitive to the commercial values of

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jiùshì zhège shāngyè jiàzhí jiù huì hěn mǐngǎn.
就是这个商业价值就会很敏感。
TV shows and movies.

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Yīnwèi dāngxià ne, jiùshì hěnduō de lǎobǎn huòzhě tóuzī shāng
因为当下呢,就是很多的老板或者投资商
Currently, when investors or bosses

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zài tóuzī yī bù yǐng shì jù de shíhou,
在投资一部影视剧的时候,
invest on a TV show or a movie,

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doū huì kàn zhè bù jù lǐmiàn yǒuméiyǒu xiǎoxiānròu,
都会看这部剧里面有没有小鲜肉,
many of them will first see if there are little fresh meat actors

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shǒuxiān yào kàn yǒuméiyǒu liúliàng míngxīng.
首先要看有没有流量明星。
or celebrities in the movie that will attract an audience.

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Ránhòu ne jiùshì zhège Wāng Hǎilín jiù kàndào shénmeyàng de xiànxiàng ne,
然后呢就是这个汪海林就看到什么样的现象呢,
And Wang Hailin sees a phenomenon

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jiùshì zhèxiē tóuzī shāng gēnběn bùzàiyì zhège diànyǐng de jùběn hǎobuhǎo,
就是这些投资商根本不在意这个电影的剧本好不好,
in which investors don’t really care whether the script is good or not,

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zhège chuàngzuò tuánduì dàodǐ yǒuméiyǒu nénglì,
这个创作团队到底有没有能力,
whether the production team is capable or not,

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ér zhǐ kàn zhège jùzǔ lǐmiàn yǒuméiyǒu nàxiē xiǎoxiānròu men.
而只看这个剧组里面有没有那些小鲜肉们。
they only care if there are little fresh meats in the production.

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Nénggòu gěi tā de tóuzī dàilái huíbào, shì ba?
能够给他的投资带来回报,是吧?
(They only care about) what can bring them a return on their investment, right?

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Duì, zhèyàng dehuà jiù shǐ yǐngshì quān wūyānzhàngqì ba, fēnwéi hěn bùhǎo.
对,这样的话就使影视圈乌烟瘴气吧,氛围很不好。
Right. This situation creates an unfavorable atmosphere in the film industry.

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Ránhòu Wāng Hǎilín jiù tā de zuǐ yě shì hěn jiānsuānkèbó,
然后汪海林就他的嘴也是很尖酸刻薄,
Wang Hailin is very mean in his talk

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tā jiù huì pīpíng, tèbiéshì xǐhuan mà Lù Hán zhège xiǎoxiānròu.
他就会批评,特别是喜欢骂鹿晗这个小鲜肉。
and he criticizes little fresh meats, especially Lu Han.

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Tā shuō zhèxiē yúlèquān zhèxiē xiǎoxiānròu men
他说这些娱乐圈这些小鲜肉们
He said that little fresh meats in the entertainment business

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gēn zuòyā méiyǒu qūbié.
跟做鸭没有区别。
are no different from male prostitutes.

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Tā hǎo gǎn shuō o!
他好敢说哦!
He’s so bold talking this way!

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Duì, tā jiù yìsi zhèxiē xiǎoxiānròu shì kào liǎn a,
对,他就意思这些小鲜肉是靠脸啊,
Yes! He was saying that these little fresh meats only depend on their faces

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kào niánqīng lái tǎo nǚxìng guānzhòng de xǐhuan,
靠年轻来讨女性观众的喜欢,
and youth to get love from female audience

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jiù gēn zuòyā yīyàng ma.
就跟做鸭一样嘛。
which is just like being a male prostitute.

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Tiānna, wā!
天哪,哇!
My God!

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Jiùshì Lù Hán de fěnsī bùhuì qù gōngjī Wāng Hǎilín ma?
就是鹿晗的粉丝不会去攻击汪海林吗?
Wouldn’t Luhan’s fans attack Wang Hailin for this?

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Huì gōngjī de, dànshì zhège rén de zhàndòulì bǐjiào qiáng,
会攻击的,但是这个人的战斗力比较强,
Yes, they did. But Wang has a strong fighting spirit.

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tā huì gēn zhèxiē fěnsī qù duì zhe, duì zhe mà
他会跟这些粉丝去对着,对着骂
He and the fans will call each other names.

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Hù duì | Duì, hù duì
互怼 | 对,互怼
They attack each other. | Right.

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Wǒ juéde zhège duì zhège zì yě shì… qíshí yě shì zhège wǎngluò liúxíng cí,
我觉得这个怼这个字也是… 其实也是这个网络流行词,
I think that the word “dui”, which is also an internet phrase,

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wǒ juéde tǐng yǒuyìsi de.
我觉得挺有意思的。
is very interesting.

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Nǐ néng jiěshì yīxià zhège duì zhège yìsi ma?
你能解释一下这个怼这个意思吗?
Can you explain the meaning of this word?

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Duì jiùshì gōngjī a, hù duì jiù hùxiāng gōngjī.
怼就是攻击啊,互怼就互相攻击。
“Dui” means to attack (with words) and “hu dui” means to attack each other.

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Ránhòu ne gāngcái wǒ shuō de zhè jǐge pínglùn ne,
然后呢刚才我说的这几个评论呢,
The comments I just mentioned

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tāmen jì bāokuò le jiùshì yīxiē nánxìng de kànfǎ,
它们既包括了就是一些男性的看法,
included opinions from males,

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yě bāokuò le yīxiē nǚxìng de kànfǎ, háiyǒu jiùshì jiāzhǎng,
也包括了一些女性的看法,还有就是家长,
females, parents

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háiyǒu yīxiē jiùshì yǐngshì jiè nèi de dàlǎo,
还有一些就是影视界内的大佬,
and some big shots in the film industry

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huòzhě shì duì yǐngshì jù yǒu yāoqiú de guānzhòng.
或者是对影视剧有要求的观众。
as well as audiences that have a higher expectation of films.

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Nà tāmen zhèxiē rén ne qíshí duì zhèzhǒng xiànxiàng yǒu páichì de.
那他们这些人呢其实对这种现象有排斥的。
So, these people are actually against this phenomenon.

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Wǒ xiǎng chā yījù, jiùshì wǒ hūrán jiān xiǎngdào le yī jiàn shì. | Hǎo de
我想插一句,就是我忽然间想到了一件事。| 好的
I need to interrupt you because I suddenly remember something. | Okay.

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Qián liǎngtiān wǒ zài B zhàn lǐmiàn yě yǒu kàndào yī gè shìpín,
前两天我在B站里面也有看到一个视频,
A couple of days ago, I saw a video on Bilibili

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yī gè xiǎo shìpín.
一个小视频。
and it was a short video.

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Jiùshì hěnduō lǎo xìgǔ men, bǐrú shuō Chénglóng a háiyǒu Sòng Dāndān
就是很多老戏骨们,比如说成龙啊还有宋丹丹
Many experienced actors, such as Jackie Chan and Song Dandan,

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zhè yīlèi de bǐjiào yǒu… yǎnjì pài de yǎnyuán men, lǎo yǎnyuán men
这一类的比较有… 演技派的演员们,老演员们
who have real acting skills,

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tāmen jiù pīpàn zhège yúlèquān de xiǎoxiānròu xiànxiàng,
他们就批判这个娱乐圈的小鲜肉现象,
were criticizing the little fresh meat phenomenon in the entertainment industry.

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bǐrú shuō nàge Chénglóng tā jiù shuō
比如说那个成龙他就说
For example, Jackie Chan was saying that

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zhèxiē liúliàng míngxīng jiùshì zhàng zhe tāmen fěnsī duō,
这些流量明星就是仗着他们粉丝多,
these popular celebrities just depend on their large fan base

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piàn chóu jiù gěi de hěn gāo.
片酬就给得很高。
to get higher pay in the films.

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Érqiě bǐrú shuō pāi dǎ xì de shíhou,
而且比如说拍打戏的时候,
Also, when they have fighting scenes,

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zhège tìshēn kuāng kuāng kuāng zài nà dǎ wán le,
这个替身哐哐哐在那打完了,
they will have doubles fight for them,

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ránhòu xiǎoxiānròu men ne jiù guòlái hā…
然后小鲜肉们呢就过来哈…
and little fresh meats just come on and say: “Ha…”.

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zuò yī gè dòngzuò jiù méishì le, ránhòu jiù ná zhe hěn gāo de piàn chóu.
做一个动作就没事了,然后就拿着很高的片酬。
They just show one move and they get very well paid.

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Suǒyǐ qíshí jiù huì yǒuyīxiē bǐjiào zhòngshì yǎnjì,
所以其实就会有一些比较重视演技,
So, people that value acting

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zhòngshì zhège hòumiàn de yìshù jiàzhí de rén
重视这个后面的艺术价值的人
and the art behind it

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huì juéde zhège xiànxiàng qíshí shì zàochéng le
会觉得这个现象其实是造成了
will think that this phenomenon has resulted in

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zhěnggè hángyè dōu duì yǎnjì bùzàihu,
整个行业都对演技不在乎,
the whole industry ignoring acting skills

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dōu bùzhòngshì yìshùjiā men de chuàngzuò,
都不重视艺术家们的创作,
and not valuing artistic creations.

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ér zhǐ zhòngshì tāmen shìfǒu nénggòu
而只重视他们是否能够
Instead, they only care if they can

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gěi zhège tóuzī shāng dài huílai zuìdà de huíbào.
给这个投资商带回来最大的回报。
get a good return from their investments.

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Duì, jiù huì zàochéng hěnduō gēnfēng de xiànxiàng.
对,就会造成很多跟风的现象。
Right. It will cause a phenomenon in which people just follow each other.

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Yīnwèi yǒuxiē yǐngshì jù kěnéng lǐmiàn de xiǎoxiānròu bǐjiào shòuhuānyíng,
因为有些影视剧可能里面的小鲜肉比较受欢迎,
Since little fresh meats that appear in some movies and TV shows are popular

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ránhòu zhège yǐngshì tícái yě tèbié de huǒ,
然后这个影视题材也特别的火,
and the subjects of these films are hot,

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ránhòu qítā de tóuzī shāng doū qù gēnfēng qù mófǎng.
然后其他的投资商都去跟风去模仿。
other investors might imitate them.

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Jiùshì gāngcái wǒmen kàndào Wāng Hǎilín
就是刚才我们看到汪海林
We just saw that Wang Hailin

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tā duì zhège xiǎoxiānròu yǒu zhèzhǒng pīpàn ma,
他对这个小鲜肉有这种批判嘛,
was criticizing little fresh meats.

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dànshì wǒ yě juéde zhège qíshí bù shì xiǎoxiānròu zàochéng de,
但是我也觉得这个其实不是小鲜肉造成的,
But I don’t think that (the problem in the film industry) was caused by little fresh meats

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yīnwèi zài yǐngshì quān
因为在影视圈
because in the film industry,

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qítā de tícái qíshí yě yǒu gēnfēng de xiànxiàng.
其它的题材其实也有跟风的现象。
the phenomenon of imitating each other also happens with other movie subjects,

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Bǐrú shuō yīxiē dàomù jù a, yīxiē xuányí jù a,
比如说一些盗墓剧啊,一些悬疑剧啊,
for example, digging graves and crime movies.

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jiùshì yīdàn yī gè lèixíng huǒ le zhīhòu, ránhòu qítā tóuzī shāng
就是一旦一个类型火了之后,然后其它投资商
Once a type of (show or movie) gets hot, other investors

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doū gēnfēng qù duì zhèzhǒng chuàngzuò jìnxíng tóuzī.
都跟风去对这种创作进行投资。
will also follow suit and invest on this type of work.

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Shíjìshàng wǒ juéde shì gēnfēng zàochéng zhèyàng,
实际上我觉得是跟风造成这样,
So actually, I feel that the problem was caused by people imitating each other,

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dào bù shì shuō xiǎoxiānròu zěnmeyàng,
倒不是说小鲜肉怎么样,
not because of little fresh meats.

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wǒ juéde Lù Hán tǐng yuānwang de, duì
我觉得鹿晗挺冤枉的,对
I think that Lu Han was wrongly blamed.

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Wǒ yě juéde tā hǎo cǎn o, jiù bèi hǎoduō rén qù gōngjī.
我也觉得他好惨哦,就被好多人去攻击。
I also feel that he’s so unlucky because many people are attacking him.

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Érqiě nǐ shuō nàge gēnfēng xiànxiàng
而且你说那个跟风现象
In addition, the phenomenon of imitating each other

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bù jǐnjǐn shì cúnzài yú yǐngshì jù.
不仅仅是存在于影视剧。
doesn’t only exists in movies and TV shows.

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Qíshí guónèi zuìjìnjǐnián zhège up zhǔ yě shì mànmàn de xīngqǐ le,
其实国内最近几年这个up主也是慢慢地兴起了,
In recent years, video creators have slowly risen in China.

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nǐ xiàng qián liǎng nián Papi jiàng bù shì tǐng chūmíng de ma?
你像前两年Papi酱不是挺出名的吗?
For example, Papi Jiang got really famous a few years ago.

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jiù tā nàzhǒng yǐ yōumò fěngcì de xíngshì
就她那种以幽默讽刺的形式
She uses a humorous and sarcastic way

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lái tùcáo yīxiē tā bù xǐhuan de shìqing.
来吐槽一些她不喜欢的事情。
to complain about things she doesn’t like.

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Ránhòu nǐ jiù huì fāxiàn yǒu hěnduō gēn Papi jiàng hěn xiàng de rén,
然后你就会发现有很多跟Papi酱很像的人,
So, you will find that there are many people that are like Papi Jiang

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nàzhǒng wǎnghóng jiù chūlái zuò shìpín, zuò tóngyàng lèixíng de shìpín.
那种网红就出来做视频,做同样类型的视频。
and have also started doing videos similar to hers.

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Qíshí zhège yě shì zài wǎngluò jiè yě yǒu yī gè gēnfēng de xiànxiàng.
其实这个也是在网络界也有一个跟风的现象。
This trend of imitating each other also happens on the internet.

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Duì, zhè shì wǒmen xūyào fǎnsī de yī jiàn shìqing.
对,这是我们需要反思的一件事情。
Right. This is something we all need to reflect on.

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Ránhòu gāngcái wǒmen kàn wán le…
然后刚才我们看完了…
We just finished watching…

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wǒmen tīngdào le yīxiē fǎnduì de shēngyīn.
我们听到了一些反对的声音。
We just heard the opinions against (this phenomenon).

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Jiēxiàlái wǒmen kàn yīxià yīxiē zhīchí de shēngyīn. | Hǎo
接下来我们看一下一些支持的声音。| 好
Now let’s take a look at people that are for it. | Okay.

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Wǒmen lái kàn yīxià zhège wǎngyǒu shuō de,
我们来看一下这个网友说的,
Let’s look at this neitizen’s opinion.

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“Qíshí bù yīnggāi yǒu xìngbié juésè biāozhǔn zhèzhǒng dōngxi a,
“其实不应该有性别角色标准这种东西啊,
“Actually, we shouldn’t have a standard for different genders.

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dōu yǐjīng shì shénme niándài le?
都已经是什么年代了?
What age are we in?

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xiànzài hái dàochù tīngdào rén shuō mǒumǒumǒu tài niáng le,
现在还到处听到人说某某某太娘了,
Even now, we still hear people criticizing someone for being feminine

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méiyǒu yīdiǎn yánggāng zhī qì!
没有一点阳刚之气!
and not having manly qualities!

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Nándào nánháizi jiù yīdìngyào zhèyàng cái xíng ma?
难道男孩子就一定要这样才行吗?
Do all guys have to be this way?

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Xiànzài nǚhànzi dōu bèi dàjiā jiēshòu le,
现在女汉子都被大家接受了,
Women that are manly have already been accepted in society,

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wēnróu yòu měilì de nánháizi shénmeshíhou kěyǐ bèi dàzhòng jiēshòu ne?”
温柔又美丽的男孩子什么时候可以被大众接受呢?”
when will we accept guys that are gentle and beautiful?”

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Nǐ kàn zhège wǎngyǒu jiù hěn… duì zhèxiē xiǎoxiānròu
你看这个网友就很… 对这些小鲜肉
You see? This person is trying to defend little fresh meats

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huòzhě shì zhèxiē nánháizi,
或者是这些男孩子,
or these (feminine)

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jīngzhì de nánháizi bàobùpíng a.
精致的男孩子抱不平啊。
and sophisticated-looking guys.

365
Tā yǒu yīdiǎn shuō duì le,
他有一点说对了,
There’s one thing that he was right about

366
wǒ fāxiàn zhège dàzhòng duì nǚxìng nánxìnghuà jiēshòu dù bǐjiào gāo,
我发现这个大众对女性男性化接受度比较高,
and that is that people have more tolerance towards girls that are masculine.

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jiùshì yī gè nǚhànzi,
就是一个女汉子,
If a girl is manly,

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hǎoxiàng dàjiā méiyǒu tàiduō de qù tǎolùn zhè jiàn shìqing.
好像大家没有太多地去讨论这件事情。
people don’t seem to talk much about it.

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Dànshì rúguǒ yī gè nánháizi biànde xiàng nǚháizi
但是如果一个男孩子变得像女孩子
But if a guy is feminine,

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hǎoxiàng jiùshì yī jiàn hěn bùhǎo de shìqing.
好像就是一件很不好的事情。
it seems like it’s really bad.

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Duì, kěnéng kàn nǚháizi biànchéng nánháizi,
对,可能看女孩子变成男孩子,
Right. If a girl becomes like a boy,

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dàjiā kěnéng shuō shì yǒudiǎn guāngróng de shìqing,
大家可能说是有点光荣的事情,
people might even think that it’s an honorable thing.

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shènzhì yǒuxiē jiāzhǎng
甚至有些家长
Some parents (might think that way).

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Jiù yǒurén kěnéng huì shuō wǒ shì nǚhànzi,
就有人可能会说我是女汉子,
When someone says that I am a manly woman,

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wǒ yě juéde tǐng guāngróng de, jiù juéde wǒ yǒu lìqi,
我也觉得挺光荣的,就觉得我有力气,
I also feel honored because that means I am physically strong

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wǒ bù shì nàzhǒng jiāoruò de,
我不是那种娇弱的,
and I am not the kind that is so delicate

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jiān bùnéng káng shǒu bùnéng tí de nǚháizi,
肩不能扛手不能提的女孩子,
that I can’t lift or carry anything on my own.

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wǒ yě juéde tǐng guāngróng de.
我也觉得挺光荣的。
I also feel pretty honored.

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Dànshì rúguǒ nǐ shuō yī gè nánhái kěndìng bùhuì chéngrèn zìjǐ,
但是如果你说一个男孩肯定不会承认自己,
But if a guy is feminine, he surely won’t admit that

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wǒ shì niángniangqiāng shì ba?
我是娘娘腔是吧?
he’s a sissy, right?

381
Duì, shì zhèyàng, shì zhèyàngzi de
对,是这样,是这样子的
Yes, that’s how it is.

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Ránhòu wǒmen kàn xià yī tiáo, zhèwèi wǎngyǒu shì zhèyàng shuō de:
然后我们看下一条,这位网友是这样说的:
Let’s look at the next comment. This neitizen says:

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“Qíshí wǒ yě yīzhí tèbié tǎoyàn shuō
“其实我也一直特别讨厌说
“Actually, I’ve always hated when people ask

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wèishénme dà lǎoyé men huòzhě yī gè nánháizi hěn méiyǒu yánggāng zhī qì,
为什么大老爷们或者一个男孩子很没有阳刚之气,
why guys or boys are not masculine.

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nǐ zhèyàng gēn yāoqiú yī gè nǚháizi yīdìngyào yīnróu wēnwǎn
你这样跟要求一个女孩子一定要阴柔温婉
What’s the difference from requiring a girl

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yǒu sházi qūbié?
有啥子区别?
to be gentle and sweet-tempered?

387
Wèishénme bùnéng měigerén dōu yǒu zìjǐ de yàngzi ne?”
为什么不能每个人都有自己的样子呢?”
Why can’t we be ourselves?”

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Zhèwèi wǎngyǒu jiù shuō wǒmen měigerén dōu yào huó chū zìjǐ de yàngzi,
这位网友就说我们每个人都要活出自己的样子,
This neitizen feels that we all should be ourselves

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wúlùn shuō wǒ shì yī gè nánháizi, wǒ dǎban de bǐjiào jiāoqì,
无论说我是一个男孩子,我打扮得比较娇气,
and whether it’s a guy looking delicate

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háishi wǒ shì yī gè nǚháizi, wǒ bǐjiào qiánghàn,
还是我是一个女孩子,我比较强悍,
or a girl being strong,

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qíshí dōu méiyǒushénme guòcuò.
其实都没有什么过错。
there isn’t anything wrong.

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Zhè wèi wǎngyǒu de yìsi shì zhèyàng de.
这位网友的意思是这样的。
That’s what this neitizen means.

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Wǒ juéde tā yào shuō de zhè yīdiǎn wǒ juéde shì hǎo de,
我觉得他要说的这一点我觉得是好的,
I think the point that he made was good.

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jiùshì rúguǒ shuō yī gè nánshēng tā zhēn de jiùshì yǒudiǎn nǚxìnghuà,
就是如果说一个男生他真的就是有点女性化,
If a guy really is a little feminine,

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nà tā kěyǐ zuòzìjǐ.
那他可以做自己。
he should just be who he is.

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Dànshì wǒ juéde hěnduō rén zài fǎnduì zhège xiànxiàng de shíhou,
但是我觉得很多人在反对这个现象的时候,
However, I think that when many people are against this phenomenon,

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gèngduō de shì shuō rúguǒ nǐ zhǐshì yīwèi de
更多的是说如果你只是一味地
they actually are against people that blindly

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wèile qǔyuè guānzhòng ér qù gǎizào de zìjǐ,
为了取悦观众而去改造的自己,
change themselves to please their audience

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ér nǐzìjǐ bìngbù shì zhèyàng de xìnggé,
而你自己并不是这样的性格,
and this change doesn’t reflect their true personality.

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wèile qù dédào fěnsī jiāng zìjǐ dǎban chéng nǚháizi,
为了去得到粉丝将自己打扮成女孩子,
They dress themselves like girls just to get fans.

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wǒ juéde zhège shì dàjiā suǒ dǐzhì de.
我觉得这个是大家所抵制的。
I feel that’s the thing people are against.

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Duì, zhège shì dàjiā suǒ dǐzhì de yī gè diǎn.
对,这个是大家所抵制的一个点。
Right, that’s the point people are against.

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Ránhòu ne qíshí wǒmen gāngcái shàngmian zhè liǎng gè wǎngyǒu,
然后呢其实我们刚才上面这两个网友,
The two netizens we just mentioned

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qíshí tāmende guānniàn jiùshì bǐjiào zìyóu,
其实他们的观念就是比较自由,
actually have a freer thinking

405
yīnwèi dōu yǐjīng dào le wǒmen de zhège shídài,
因为都已经到了我们的这个时代,
because we already have reached this age

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duì nánxìng hé nǚxìng de dìngyì méiyǒu nàme sǐbǎn.
对男性和女性的定义没有那么死板。
where we shouldn’t have strict definitions for men and women.

407
Ránhòu wǒmen kàn xiàmian zhèwèi wǎngyǒu,
然后我们看下面这位网友,
Now let’s look at the next neitizen’s (opinion).

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“Wǒ yě xiǎng zhǎo gè nǚzhuāng dàlǎo nánpéngyou a!
“我也想找个女装大佬男朋友啊!
“I’d like to have a cross-dresser be my boyfriend!

409
Nǚxìnghuà gèng yǒu qīnjìn gǎn, gǎnjué huì wēnróu yīdiǎn,
女性化更有亲近感,感觉会温柔一点,
Feminine guys are easier to be close to, more gentle

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gèng hǎo xiāngchǔ yīdiǎn.
更好相处一点。
and easier to get along with.

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Érqiě kěyǐ hé tā liáo liáo huàzhuāngpǐn shénmede,
而且可以和他聊聊化妆品什么的,
Also, I can talk to him about make-up

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kěnéng huì gèng dǒng nǚháizi de xīn.”
可能会更懂女孩子的心。”
and he might understand girls better.”

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Nǐ kàndào zhège… | Zhège wǒ tóngyì āi!
你看到这个… | 这个我同意唉!
You see this… | This, I agree!

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Zhège nǚshēng dehuà gēn qiánmiàn nà liǎng gè jiùshì bùyīyàng le,
这个女生的话跟前面那两个就是不一样了,
This girl is different from the previous two (netizens).

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tā shíjìshàng tā shì zìjǐ hěn xǐhuan zhèyàng de nánháizi,
她实际上她是自己很喜欢这样的男孩子,
She actually likes this kind of guy

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yīnwèi nǚxìnghuà de nánháizi kěnéng gèng dǒng nǚshēng de,
因为女性化的男孩子可能更懂女生的,
because feminine guys might understand girls better

417
xīnli xiǎngyào de dōngxi
心里想要的东西
and know what they want.

418
Wǒ juéde wǒ tóngyì zhège shuōfǎ.
我觉得我同意这个说法。
I agree with this.

419
Xiàmian zhège shì zhèyàng shuō de,
下面这个是这样说的,
The next one said:

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“Běnrén chāo xǐhuan gay huòzhě yǒu zhèzhǒng qìzhì de nánshēng,
“本人超喜欢gay或者有这种气质的男生,
“I really like gays or guys with this disposition

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jiù juéde zhèxiē nánshēng bùróngyì duì nánshēng hé nǚshēng
就觉得这些男生不容易对男生和女生
because I feel that they usually don’t have prejudice

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cúnzài mǒuxiē gùzhí de piānjiàn, gèng néng lǐjiě bǐcǐ.”
存在某些固执的偏见,更能理解彼此。”
against men or women and they are more understanding.”

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Nǐ kàn zhège guāndiǎn jiù hěn chāoqián, hěn qiánwèi
你看这个观点就很超前,很前卫
You see, this view is very open and advanced.

424
Bù shì, zhè shì gè nǚhái shuō de ma?
不是,这是个女孩说的吗?
Wait a minute! Is it a girl that said this?

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Duì, zhè shì gè nǚhái shuō de
对,这是个女孩说的
Yes, it’s a girl.

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Dànshì tā shuō tā gèng xǐhuan gay
但是她说她更喜欢gay
But when she said that she liked gays,

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shì zhǐ zuò péngyou ba yīnggāi shì shuō,
是指做朋友吧应该是说,
she probably meant being friends with them

428
bùkěnéng gēn tā fāzhǎn nánnǚ péngyou.
不可能跟他发展男女朋友。
and not developing romance with them, right?

429
Kěnéng shì ba!
可能是吧!
Probably so!

430
Nà xiàmian wǒmen lái shuō yī shuō jiùshì
那下面我们来说一说就是
Now, let’s talk about

431
dǎozhì zhège xiànxiàng de yuányīn yǒu nǎxiē ba?
导致这个现象的原因有哪些吧?
some of the reasons for this phenomenon, okay?

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Wǒ zhīqián yě jiùshì sīkǎo guò zhè fāngmiàn wèntí,
我之前也就是思考过这方面问题,
I have thought about this issue before

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yīnwèi zìjǐ yǒu guānzhù guò zhèxiē wèntí.
因为自己有关注过这些问题。
because I’ve been following this topic.

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Nà wǒ zǒngjié ne dàgài yǒu liǎng fāngmiàn de yuányīn,
那我总结呢大概有两方面的原因,
Based on the summary (of what I read), there are two reasons.

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shǒuxiān wǒ shuō yīxià dìyī fāngmiàn de yuányīn,
首先我说一下第一方面的原因,
Let’s talk about the first one

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zhè yě shì nánxìng nǚxìnghuà de zhège shìjiàn de yī gè wàiyīn.
这也是男性女性化的这个事件的一个外因。
which is the external cause of this.

437
Zhège nánxìng nǚxìnghuà zhège xiànxiàng
这个男性女性化这个现象
This phenomenon

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shíjìshàng bùzhǐ shì zài Zhōngguó yǒu fāshēng,
实际上不只是在中国有发生,
actually doesn’t only exist in China.

439
qíshí zài Hánguó Rìběn qíshí zǎojiù yǒu zhèzhǒng xiànxiàng,
其实在韩国日本其实早就有这种现象,
In fact, South Korea and Japan had it long time ago

440
yīnggāi nǐ yě guānchá dào le.
应该你也观察到了。
which you probably also know.

441
Duì, zài nàge Hán jù lǐmiàn
对,在那个韩剧里面
Right. In K-dramas,

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jiù jīngcháng nénggòu kàndào nàzhǒng cháng tuǐ ōubā.
就经常能够看到那种长腿欧巴。
we often see guys with long legs.
Note: “Ouba” is a Korean term that used by girls to refer to guys older than them.

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Ōubā, duì, hǎoduō ōubā, duì
欧巴,对,好多欧巴,对
Ouba! Right, many ouba!

444
Zài shàng gè shìjì de qīshí niándài ne,
在上个世纪的70年代呢,
In the 1970s,

445
Rìběn dāngshí de jiùshì yúlè chǎnyè
日本当时的就是娱乐产业
Japan’s entertainment industry

446
gānggang kāishǐ péngbó fāzhǎn, gāng kāishǐ juéqǐ.
刚刚开始蓬勃发展,刚开始崛起。
was just starting to flourish.

447
Ránhòu zhège shíqī ne shòudào le yī gè zěnyàng de yǐngxiǎng ne?
然后这个时期呢受到了一个怎样的影响呢?
So during that period, what influenced it?

448
Shòudào le xīfāng de hòu xiàndài sīcháo de yī gè yǐngxiǎng,
受到了西方的后现代思潮的一个影响,
It was influenced by western postmodernism.

449
jiù dāngshí de hòu xiàndài sīcháo gānghǎo yǒngrù le Rìběn shèhuì,
就当时的后现代思潮刚好涌入了日本社会,
This postmodernism was pouring into Japanese society

450
nà tā duì Rìběn de shèhuì shíjìshàng shì huì yǒu yīzhǒng chōngjī de.
那它对日本的社会实际上是会有一种冲击的。
and had a big shock on the Japanese.

451
Yīnwèi yǐqián ma, Rìběn qíshí shòu Zhōngguó yǐngxiǎng,
因为以前嘛,日本其实受中国影响,
Before that, Japan was actually influenced by China

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tā shì yī gè bǐjiào chuántǒng de shèhuì móshì,
它是一个比较传统的社会模式,
and the societal model was rather traditional.

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dàjiā de sīxiǎng yě dōu bǐjiào chuántǒng,
大家的思想也都比较传统,
So, people’s thinking was also traditional

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zhè yě shì dōngfāng de yīzhǒng tèxìng ba, duì
这也是东方的一种特性吧,对
which is one of the unique features in the east.

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Ránhòu ne zài zhège chuántǒng guānniàn lǐmiàn
然后呢在这个传统观念里面
In the traditional view,

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shíjìshàng jiù huì yǒu yīzhǒng gùzhí de piānjiàn,
实际上就会有一种固执的偏见,
there is actually a kind of narrow thinking

457
bǐrú shuō duì nánxìng hé nǚxìng de jiùshì zhèzhǒng fēnlèi a,
比如说对男性和女性的就是这种分类啊,
when it comes to classifying men and women.

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nánxìng shì shénme, nǚxìng shì shénme, jiùshì dìngyì de hěn yánsù.
男性是什么,女性是什么,就是定义地很严肃。
As for what is a man and a woman, there is a strict definition.

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Nà hòu xiàndài sīcháo de yī gè zhǔyào de yī gè mùdì jiùshì shénme ne?
那后现代思潮的一个主要的一个目的就是什么呢?
So, what was the main purpose of the postmodernism?

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Jiùshì jìnxíng diānfù, jiùshì duì xiànyǒu de zhèxiē guīzé,
就是进行颠覆,就是对现有的这些规则,
It was to overthrow the existing rules

461
xiànyǒu de zhèxiē chuántǒng de sīxiǎng jìnxíng diānfù
现有的这些传统的思想进行颠覆。
and traditional thinking.

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Nà nǐ xiǎngxiang zài wǒmen dōngfāng zhège wénmíng dāngzhōng,
那你想想在我们东方这个文明当中,
Think about it, in eastern civilization,

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Nǐ duì nǎxiē shìqing jìnxíng diānfù
你对哪些事情进行颠覆
what could they overthrow

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huì chǎnshēng jiùshì fēicháng qiángliè de xiàoguǒ ne?
会产生就是非常强烈的效果呢?
in order to have a strong effect?

465
Bù zhīdao a
不知道啊
I don’t know.

466
Bù zhīdao, shì ba?
不知道,是吧?
You don’t know, right?

467
Jiùshì yīnwèi wǒmen… wǒ gāngcái yǒu tíshì o!
就是因为我们… 我刚才有提示哦!
It’s because… I already gave you a hint!

468
Xìngbié shì ma?
性别是吗?
Gender?

469
Duì, zhèyàng dehuà huì yǒu hěndà de chōngjī xiàoguǒ ma.
对,这样的话会有很大的冲击效果嘛。
Yes! This way, it would bring a big impact.

470
Suǒyǐ shuō zài Rìběn dāngshí
所以说在日本当时
That’s why at that time, in Japan,

471
jiùshì chūxiàn le hěnduō de yīxiē yáogǔn míngxīng.
就是出现了很多的一些摇滚明星。
there were many rock and roll stars that emerged.

472
Wǒ bù zhīdao nǐ yǒuméiyǒu tīng yáogǔnyuè de xíguàn, Eileen?
我不知道你有没有听摇滚乐的习惯,Eileen?
I don’t know if you listen to rock and roll music, Eileen?

473
Wǒ hǎoxiàng bùtài zhuī xīng.
我好像不太追星。
I don’t follow stars too much.

474
Zhīhòu wǒ kěyǐ gěi nǐ tuījiàn yīxiē hǎotīng de yáogǔn yuèshǒu. | Hǎo, xíng
之后我可以给你推荐一些好听的摇滚乐手。| 好,行
Later, I can recommend some good rock and roll musicians to you. | Okay.

475
Tāmen shòu hòu xiàndài sīcháo de yǐngxiǎng,
他们受后现代思潮的影响,
Being influenced by postmodernism,

476
ránhòu guānniàn a jiù tèbié de kāifàng,
然后观念啊就特别的开放,
their (the musicians’) thinking was very open

477
ránhòu tāmen de zàoxíng ne jiù jiànlì zài yīzhǒng mùdì shàng,
然后他们的造型呢就建立在一种目的上,
and their (dressing) styles were based on one goal

478
jiùshì duì xìngbié guānniàn de yīzhǒng diānfù.
就是对性别观念的一种颠覆。
and that was overthrowing people’s perception of gender.

479
Hěnduō de nán de yáogǔn míngxīng
很多的男的摇滚明星
Many male rock stars

480
jiù dǎban de hěn zhōngxìng huà, shènzhì shì hěn nǚxìnghuà.
就打扮得很中性化,甚至是很女性化。
dressed neutral, or even feminine.

481
Ránhòu dāngshí yě shì yǐnqǐ le hěndà de yī gè shèhuì cháoliú,
然后当时也是引起了很大的一个社会潮流,
It created a huge fashion trend in society.

482
mànmàn de cóng yáogǔn míngxīng yǐngxiǎng dào
慢慢地从摇滚明星影响到
Slowly, rock stars influenced

483
qítā yīnyuè lèixíng de míngxīng,
其它音乐类型的明星,
other type of musicians,

484
yǐngxiǎng dào yǎnyìquān de rén, yǐngxiǎng dào zhǔchírén,
影响到演艺圈的人,影响到主持人,
actors and TV hosts.

485
zuìhòu zhěnggè yúlè chǎnyè nèi ne dàjiā de guānniàn dōu bǐjiào kāifàng,
最后整个娱乐产业内呢大家的观念都比较开放,
Eventually, the whole entertainment industry became open with their thinking

486
ránhòu jiù xíngchéng le zhèzhǒng cháoliú ma.
然后就形成了这种潮流嘛。
and created this trend.

487
Nà zhèzhǒng cháoliú hòulái chuán dào le Hánguó,
那这种潮流后来传到了韩国,
Later, it spread to South Korea.

488
Nǐ kàn Hánguó de nàxiē míngxīng,
你看韩国的那些明星,
You can see that celebrities in South Korea,

489
zǎonián de yīxiē míngxīng dōu shì hěn nǚxìnghuà de.
早年的一些明星都是很女性化的。
and earlier ones were all feminine.

490
Duì, hěn xiǎoxiānròu de, duì ba?
对,很小鲜肉的,对吧?
Right. They are very much like little fresh meats, right?

491
Xiànzài yě shì a
现在也是啊
Even now, it’s the same.

492
Duì, xiànzài yě shì zhèyàng.
对,现在也是这样。
Right, now it’s also like this.

493
Ránhòu zài yīdiǎndiǎn chuán dào Zhōngguó, duì
然后再一点点传到中国,对
Then, it slowly spread to China

494
cái xíngchéng xiànzài de yī gè zhège yàngzi.
才形成现在的一个这个样子。
and became how it is now.

495
Wǒ juéde Hánguó míngxīng,
我觉得韩国明星,
I think that among all the Korean stars,

496
wǒ jìyì dāngzhōng zuì bù xiàng xiǎoxiānròu de jiùshì Rain,
我记忆当中最不像小鲜肉的就是Rain,
the one that I remember who was the least like a little fresh meat was Rain.

497
nǐ zhīdao nàge làngmàn mǎnwū lǐmiàn de. | Rain shì
你知道那个浪漫满屋里面的。| Rain是
You know, the guy in Full House. | Rain, yes.

498
Tā jiùshì jīròu hěn fādá | Tā shì yǒu jīròu de
他就是肌肉很发达 | 他是有肌肉的
He was very muscular. | He has muscles.

499
Duì, jīròu hěn fādá, wǒ juéde hǎo shuài.
对,肌肉很发达,我觉得好帅。
Right, he has well-developed muscles which makes me feel that he is very handsome.

500
Kànlai nǐ hěn xǐhuan!
看来你很喜欢!
It looks like you like him a lot!

501
Nà hòu xiàndài sīcháo tā de yǐngxiǎng zuìdà de dìfang
那后现代思潮它的影响最大的地方
So, the biggest influence from postmodernism

502
jiùshìshuō dàjiā de guānniàn gèng kāifàng le.
就是说大家的观念更开放了。
was making people’s thinking more open.

503
Tā zhìshǎo shì tígōng le yī gè kōngjiān ba,
它至少是提供了一个空间吧,
At least, it offered a space

504
dàjiā qù fāhuī zìjǐ gèxìng de kōngjiān.
大家去发挥自己个性的空间。
that allowed people to express their personality.

505
Ránhòu ne wǒ dìèr fāngmiàn yuányīn ne shíjìshàng jiùshì
然后呢我第二方面原因呢实际上就是
The second reason is actually

506
yě kěyǐ jiàozuò yī gè nèi yīn.
也可以叫做一个内因。
what we call, internal cause.

507
Wǒmen dōngfāng de jiùshì gǔdài de yīxiē guānniàn gēn xīfāng shì bùyīyàng de,
我们东方的就是古代的一些观念跟西方是不一样的,
People’s thinking in ancient times was different from the west,

508
cóng yìshù zuòpǐn dāngzhōng jiù kěyǐ kàndào.
从艺术作品当中就可以看到。
and it can be seen from its art.

509
Kàn xīfāng nàge gǔxīlà de diāosù, nǐ xiǎngxiang
看西方那个古希腊的雕塑,你想想
Look at the sculptures in ancient Greece,

510
dōu shì nàzhǒng lìliàng gǎn de, yǒu hěnduō jīròu de, duì ba? | Duì
都是那种力量感的,有很多肌肉的,对吧? | 对
they all show physical strength and have a lot of muscles, right? | Right.

511
Dànshì zài wǒmen gǔdiǎn de jiùshì huàzuò dāngzhōng,
但是在我们古典的就是画作当中,
But in our classical artwork,

512
nǐ kàn nàxiē wúlùn shì nán háishi nǚ de dōu duì huà de bǐjiào miáotiao.
你看那些无论是男还是女的都对画得比较苗条。
you can see that both women and men were depicted as being slender.

513
Qíshí shěnměi shì bùyīyàng de, jiùshì zìrán guānniàn bùyīyàng,
其实审美是不一样的,就是自然观念不一样。
Our beauty standards are different and our views on nature are also different.

514
Yīnwèi zài xīfāng tā de zìrán guānniàn shì zhèyàng de,
因为在西方它的自然观念是这样的,
In the west, people’s view on nature

515
jiùshì rén ne yào yǒu yīxiē zhǔdòng xìng, wǒmen yào qù gǎibiàn zìrán,
就是人呢要有一些主动性,我们要去改变自然,
is that they should take the initiatives to change it

516
shènzhì shì duìkàng zìrán, jiùshì zhǔdòng xìng.
甚至是对抗自然,就是主动性。
or fight against it.

517
Nà nǐ yǒu zhǔdòng xìng dehuà, jiù yāoqiú nǐ yào yǒu yīzhǒng shénme?
那你有主动性的话,就要求你要有一种什么?
If you want to take initiatives, what do you need to have?

518
Lìliang, duì ba?
力量,对吧?
Strength, right?

519
Nǐ yào yǒu lìliang cái néng duìkàng zìrán ma.
你要有力量才能对抗自然嘛。
You need to have strength in order to fight against nature.

520
Nà zài dōngfāng shíjìshàng gèngduō qiángdiào de shì
那在东方实际上更多强调的是
But in the east, we actually emphasize

521
rén yǔ zìrán de yīzhǒng jiéhé,
人与自然的一种结合,
being one with nature.

522
érqiě zài gǔdài, zài Zhōngguó gǔdài yǒu hěnduō de shīrén a, yǐnshì a
而且在古代,在中国古代有很多的诗人啊,隐士啊
In ancient times, many Chinese poets and hermits

523
dōu xǐhuan pǎo dào shān lǐ qù yǐnjū.
都喜欢跑到山里去隐居。
liked to go up the mountains and live in solitude.

524
Lǐbái | Duì
李白 | 对
Li Bai (a famous poet). | Right.

525
Tāmen jiùshì yào gēn dàzìrán
他们就是要跟大自然
They wanted to become

526
jiùshì róngwéiyītǐ de nàzhǒng gǎnjué, xiāoyǐn de zhuàngtài
就是融为一体的那种感觉,消隐的状态
one with nature and be in a state of seclusion.

527
Nà xiāoyǐn de zhuàngtài shíjìshàng tā de shěnměi jiù huì piān róuhé yīdiǎn.
那消隐的状态实际上它的审美就会偏柔和一点。
In that state, people’s beauty standards would tend to be more soft and gentle.

528
Wǒ yě juéde gǔdài hǎoxiàng zhǎngde qīngxiù de
我也觉得古代好像长得清秀的
I also feel that in ancient times, delicate and pretty

529
nàzhǒng xiùcai de xíngxiàng gèngjiā shòuhuānyíng.
那种秀才的形象更加受欢迎。
“xiucai” look was more popular.
Note: Xiucai refers to one who passed the imperial examination at the county level in the Ming and Qing dynasties.

530
Duì, shì zhèyàng de.
对,是这样的。
Right, that’s how it was.

531
Gǔdài yǒu gè shīrén tā jiàozuò Liǔyǒng, tèbié yǒumíng de yī gè shīrén.
古代有个诗人他叫做柳永,特别有名的一个诗人。
In ancient times, there was a famous poet named Liu Yong.

532
Tā shēngqián ne, tā jiùshì nàzhǒng wénzhìbīnbīn de shūshēng ma,
他生前呢,他就是那种文质彬彬的书生嘛,
Because he was the kind of scholar with gentle, elegant manners

533
ránhòu tā xǐhuan xiě shī jiù shòudào hěnduō nǚxìng de xǐhuan.
然后他喜欢写诗就受到很多女性的喜欢。
and could write poems, many women liked him.

534
Ránhòu dāngshí zài gǔdài Zhōngguó yě yǒu nàzhǒng jìyuàn ma,
然后当时在古代中国也有那种妓院嘛,
At that time, ancient China also had brothels.

535
ránhòu zài Liǔyǒng sǐ de nàtiān jiùshì | Qīnglóu
然后在柳永死的那天就是 | 青楼
The day Liu Yong died, … | “Green house” (brothels).

536
Duì, zài gǔdài yě yǒu hěnduō de qīnglóu,
对,在古代也有很多的青楼,
Right. In ancient times, there were many “green houses”.

537
qīnglóu jiùshìshuō nánrén zhǎo…
青楼就是说男人找…
“Green houses” were places where men

538
huāqián zhǎo nǚháizi de dìfang, zài gǔdài
花钱找女孩子的地方,在古代
spent money to get girls in ancient times.

539
Zài tā qùshì de nà yītiān,
在他去世的那一天,
The day he passed away,

540
tā suǒ zhù de nàge chéngshì de suǒyǒu de qīnglóu dōu guānmén,
他所住的那个城市的所有的青楼都关门,
all the brothels in his city closed down

541
wèile zhuīdào tā.
为了追悼他。
to mourn him.

542
Wa! Zhème lìhai!
哇!这么厉害!
Wow! That’s amazing!

543
Duì, nǐ xiǎngdào tā kěndìng hěn shòu dàjiā xǐhuan le.
对,你想到他肯定很受大家喜欢了。
Right. You can imagine that they really liked him.

544
Nà shìbùshì yě shuōmíng tā jīngcháng qù guàng zhège qīnglóu a?
那是不是也说明他经常去逛这个青楼啊?
Does it mean that he would often visit brothels?

545
Shì ba, tā yī gè shūshēng
是吧,他一个书生
Probably so. As a scholar,

546
wǒ juéde kěnéng jiùshì děi zài zhèxiē dìfang shēnghuó.
我觉得可能就是得在这些地方生活。
I think he might have lived his life around these places.

547
Hǎo ba hǎo ba!
好吧好吧!
Okay.

548
Bùguò nǐ shuō de nàge shěnměi a,
不过你说的那个审美啊,
Anyway, the beauty standards that you were talking about

549
qíshí zhège yě shì, xiàng nǐ gānggang jiǎng de
其实这个也是,像你刚刚讲的
are actually, as you put it,

550
shì yī gè dōngxīfāng duìyú nánxìng shěnměi de yī gè chāyì.
是一个东西方对于男性审美的一个差异。
different between the west and the east.

551
Jǔ gè lìzi ba, zài Měiguó
举个例子吧,在美国
For example, in the U.S,

552
yīxiē nánháizi tāmen huì wèile zēngzhǎng jīròu huì chīyào,
一些男孩子他们会为了增长肌肉会吃药,
in order to grow more muscles, some guys will take drugs

553
ránhòu huì dǎ nàzhǒng jīsù ràng zìjǐ biànde hěn yǒu jīròu
然后会打那种激素让自己变得很有肌肉
or inject hormones

554
hěn yǒu lìliang de nàzhǒng gǎnjué, hěn yánggāng.
很有力量的那种感觉,很阳刚。
so that they can appear stronger and more manly.

555
Suǒyǐ cóng zhèlǐ jiù kěyǐ kànchū tāmen de shěnměi
所以从这里就可以看出他们的审美
From this, we can see that their beauty standards

556
shì gēn wǒmen shì wánquán bùyīyàng de.
是跟我们是完全不一样的。
are completely different from ours.

557
Wǒ juéde Zhōngguó de nǚháizi bù xǐhuan nàzhǒng tǐgé hěndà de jīròu nán,
我觉得中国的女孩子不喜欢那种体格很大的肌肉男,
I think that (most) Chinese girls don’t really like guys that are big and very muscular.

558
xiāngfǎn gèng xǐhuan yǒu yīdiǎndiǎn jīròu jiù hǎo le,
相反更喜欢有一点点肌肉就好了,
Instead, we prefer guys that are just a little bit muscular

559
jiù shēncái shāowēi yúnchèn yīdiǎn de, duì ba?
就身材稍微匀称一点的,对吧?
and have well-proportioned body features, you know?

560
Duì, shì zhèyàngzi de.
对,是这样子的。
Yes, it’s true.

561
Kěnéng shì zài gèng dòngdàng de shíqī,
可能是在更动荡的时期,
Perhaps, in a more turbulent period,

562
nǚxìng qíshí shì xūyào nàzhǒng hěn jiànzhuàng de nánrén qù bǎohù tā,
女性其实是需要那种很健壮的男人去保护她,
women actually needed strong guys to protect them

563
tā cái huì juéde yǒu… shēnghuó huì yǒu ānquángǎn.
她才会觉得有… 生活会有安全感。
and only that way, could they feel safe.

564
Dàn shì zài wǒmen xiànzài zhège shèhuì xíngtài xià,
但是在我们现在这个社会形态下,
But in our current society,

565
yīnwèi shèhuì yào gèng wénmíng le, fǎzhì yào gèng jiànquán le,
因为社会要更文明了,法制要更健全了,
since it’s more civil and our law is more established,

566
shíjìshàng nǚxìng kěnéng jiùshì bùxūyào
实际上女性可能就是不需要
women might no longer need

567
yī gè fēicháng qiángzhuàng de nánrén qù bǎohù tā.
一个非常强壮的男人去保护她。
a strong man to protect them.

568
Jiùshì tā xūyào yī gè gēn tā yǒu píngděng guānxi de nánxìng,
就是她需要一个跟他有平等关系的男性,
They might need a more equal relationship with a guy,

569
nénggòu fēnxiǎng shēnghuó dāngzhōng de xǔduō kuàilè
能够分享生活当中的许多快乐
and can share good

570
yǔ bù kuàilè de shìqing.
与不快乐的事情。
and bad things in life with each other.

571
Érqiě wǒ juéde xiànzài de nǚxìng yě bǐjiào dúlì le,
而且我觉得现在的女性也比较独立了,
I think that women nowadays have become more independent

572
bùlùn shì jīnqián shàngmian háishi réngé shàngmian dōu gèngjiā dúlì le,
不论是金钱上面还是人格上面都更加独立了,
both in finance and in personality (thinking).

573
suǒyǐ kěnéng tāmen yě xīwàng nénggòu zhǎodào yī gè
所以可能她们也希望能够找到一个
So, they might want to find a guy

574
nénggòu tīng zìjǐ huà de,
能够听自己话的,
that can listen to them,

575
huòzhě shì kěyǐ gènghǎo gōutōng de nàzhǒng lèixíng.
或者是可以更好沟通的那种类型。
or that they can easily communicate with.

576
Shìde, shì zhèyàng de.
是的,是这样的。
Right.

577
Ránhòu zhège nánxìng nǚxìnghuà qíshí yě yǒuyīxiē wǎngyǒu huì shuō dào,
然后这个男性女性化其实也有一些网友会说到,
Also, regarding men becoming feminine, some netizens actually were saying that

578
zhège qíshí bìngbù shì shuō shénme nánxìng biànde yuèláiyuè nǚháizi le,
这个其实并不是说什么男性变得越来越女孩子了,
these guys aren’t really becoming more feminine,

579
tāmen zhǐbùguò shì biànde yuèláiyuè jīngzhì le,
他们只不过是变得越来越精致了,
they just become more sophisticated

580
jiùshì tāmen huì qù dǎban le.
就是他们会去打扮了。
with their looks.

581
Yīnwèi… zhège shuō qǐlai jiù yǒudiǎn huà cháng le,
因为… 这个说起来就有点话长了,
Because… If we start talking about this, it will be a long conversation.

582
zhè gēn wǒmen de jiàzhíguān yě yǒudiǎn guānxi.
这跟我们的价值观也有点关系。
It actually has to do with our values.

583
Jiùshì wǒmen de chuántǒng sīxiǎng dāngzhōng
就是我们的传统思想当中
Traditionally, we think that

584
jiùshì nánxìng jiù yīnggāi shì fù qǐ jiātíng de zérèn,
就是男性就应该是负起家庭的责任,
men should be responsible for the family

585
suǒyǐ shuō nánrén zhèngqián yǎngjiā,
所以说男人挣钱养家,
and so, they need to make money to support the family

586
ér nǚháizi jiù fùzé màoměi rúhuā jiù hǎo le.
而女孩子就负责貌美如花就好了。
and the girls just need to be beautiful.

587
Xiànzài de nánháizi zhǐbùguò shì gèngjiā zhùzhòng dǎban le,
现在的男孩子只不过是更加注重打扮了,
Guys nowadays are just paying more attention to their appearance.

588
qíshí yě méiyǒu shénme wèntí.
其实也没有什么问题。
Actually, there is nothing wrong with it.

589
Dànshì wǒmen suǒ shuō de zhínán kěnéng tāmen zài jiéhūn zhīhòu
但是我们所说的直男可能他们在结婚之后
But straight men, as we call them, after they get married,

590
jiù bù qù dǎban zìjǐ le,
就不去打扮自己了,
they might not take care of their looks anymore

591
jiùshì shénme fàngfēi zìwǒ, gāi chī chī gāi hē hē | Duì
就是什么放飞自我,该吃吃该喝喝 | 对
and let themselves go, just eat or drink all they want. | Right.

592
Ránhòu yěbù zhùzhòng gèrénwèishēng,
然后也不注重个人卫生,
Also, they might not pay attention to personal hygiene,

593
kěnéng yě bù xǐzǎo shénmede.
可能也不洗澡什么的。
for example, not taking showers.

594
Xiànzài yě yǐnqǐ le yīxiē nǚshēng de fǎngǎn.
现在也引起了一些女生的反感。
It actually caused women to feel disgusted by them.

595
Yīxiē nǚshēng kěnéng huì rènwéi wǒzìjǐ kěyǐ zhèngqián,
一些女生可能会认为我自己可以挣钱,
Some women might think that since they can make money on their own,

596
nà wǒ wèishénme yào gēn yī gè gēn wǒ zhèngqián zhèng de yīyàng duō de,
那我为什么要跟一个跟我挣钱挣得一样多的,
why should they stay with a guy that earns the same amount of money,

597
ránhòu ne yòu bù dǎban zìjǐ de,
然后呢又不打扮自己的,
not taking care of his appearance

598
bù zhùzhòng gèrénwèishēng de rén zàiyīqǐ ne?
不注重个人卫生的人在一起呢?
and not paying attention to his personal hygiene?

599
Suǒyǐ wǒ juéde zhège yě shì yǒu zhège nǚxìng de
所以我觉得这个也是有这个女性的
So, I think that women

600
zài zhège liǎng xìng guānxi zhōng de yī gè xiàng nǐ shuō de fǎnkàng ba.
在这个两性关系中的一个像你说的反抗吧。
have shown rebellion in their relationships with men.

601
Duì, shì zhèyàngzi.
对,是这样子。
Yes, that’s the case.

602
Qíshí wǒmen de shèhuì dào jīntiān háishi yǒu jìnbù de,
其实我们的社会到今天还是有进步的,
Actually, our society has advanced

603
wǒmen yǒu le gèngduō de zìyóu de kōngjiān,
我们有了更多的自由的空间,
because we have more room for freedom

604
fāhuī zìjǐ gèxìng de kōngjiān, qíshí shì yǒu jìnbù de.
发挥自己个性的空间,其实是有进步的。
and for expressing our personality.

605
Dàn zhèxiē nánxìng nǚxìnghuà hé nǚxìng nánxìnghuà zhèxiē xiànxiàng ne,
但这些男性女性化和女性男性化这些现象呢,
However, the phenomenon of men becoming feminine or women becoming masculine

606
shíjìshàng hái huì gěi bǐjiào chuántǒng de rén dàilái fùdān,
实际上还会给比较传统的人带来负担,
has brought burden to people with traditional views

607
zhè yě shì kěyǐ lǐjiě de.
这也是可以理解的。
and it’s understandable

608
Yīnwèi xīn shìwù bìngbù shì shéi dōu jiùshì bìxū qù jiēshòu, duì
因为新事物并不是谁都就是必须去接受,对
because not everyone has to accept new things.

609
Tā zhège xiànxiàng de hǎo de yī miàn
它这个现象的好的一面
The good thing about this phenomenon

610
jiù zàiyú tā yǐnqǐ le dàjiā de guānzhù gēn tǎolùn.
就在于它引起了大家的关注跟讨论。
is that it caused people to pay attention to it and talk about it.

611
Zhège qíshí yě shì cèmiàn de shuōmíng le
这个其实也是侧面地说明了
Actually, this indirectly shows

612
wǒmen zhège shèhuì zài biànde yuèláiyuè yǒu bāoróngxìng le.
我们这个社会在变得越来越有包容性了。
that our society has become more and more inclusive.

613
Wǒ xiǎng jīntiān de bōkè dào zhèlǐ yě chàbuduō le.
我想今天的播客到这里也差不多了。
I guess today’s podcast is almost finished.

614
Zài wǒmen jiéshù zhīqián,
在我们结束之前,
Before we go,

615
Xiǎofēng nǐ hái yǒuméiyǒu xiǎng gēn dàjiā shuō de ne?
晓峰你还有没有想跟大家说的呢?
do you have anything else to say, Xiaofeng?

616
Jiùshì xīwàng yǐhòu dàjiā xué hǎo wǒ de dōngběi huà.
就是希望以后大家学好我的东北话。
I just hope that you guys can learn from my northern (accent)!

617
Nà jīntiān de bōkè dào zhèlǐ jiù jiéshù le.
那今天的播客到这里就结束了。
That’s it for today’s podcast!

618
Nánxìng nǚxìnghuà zhège xiànxiàng
男性女性化这个现象
Does this phenomenon

619
zài nǐmen de guójiā shìbùshì yě cúnzài ne?
在你们的国家是不是也存在呢?
also exist in your country?

620
Háiyǒu nǐmen duì zhège xiànxiàng yòu yǒu shénme kànfǎ ne?
还有你们对这个现象又有什么看法呢?
And what do you think about it?

621
Huānyíng dàjiā zài xiàmian liúyán tǎolùn o!
欢迎大家在下面留言讨论哦!
Leave us a comment!

622
Nà wǒmen jiù xià qī zàijiàn ba, báibái!
那我们就下期再见吧,拜拜!
See you in the next episode! Bye!

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